Alumni /asmagazine/ en Secrets, spies and a stirred Vesper /asmagazine/2025/09/02/secrets-spies-and-stirred-vesper <span>Secrets, spies and a stirred Vesper</span> <span><span>Rachel Sauer</span></span> <span><time datetime="2025-09-02T13:53:24-06:00" title="Tuesday, September 2, 2025 - 13:53">Tue, 09/02/2025 - 13:53</time> </span> <div> <div class="imageMediaStyle focal_image_wide"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/focal_image_wide/public/2025-09/A%20Spy%20Walked%20Into%20A%20Bar%20thumbnail.jpg?h=b7cd525d&amp;itok=kEjU4EC-" width="1200" height="800" alt="book cover of A Spy Walked Into A Bar and portrait of Rob Dannenberg"> </div> </div> <div role="contentinfo" class="container ucb-article-categories" itemprop="about"> <span class="visually-hidden">Categories:</span> <div class="ucb-article-category-icon" aria-hidden="true"> <i class="fa-solid fa-folder-open"></i> </div> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/346"> Books </a> </div> <div role="contentinfo" class="container ucb-article-tags" itemprop="keywords"> <span class="visually-hidden">Tags:</span> <div class="ucb-article-tag-icon" aria-hidden="true"> <i class="fa-solid fa-tags"></i> </div> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/54" hreflang="en">Alumni</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/58" hreflang="en">Books</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/1246" hreflang="en">College of Arts and Sciences</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/524" hreflang="en">International Affairs</a> </div> <span>Cody DeBos</span> <div class="ucb-article-content ucb-striped-content"> <div class="container"> <div class="paragraph paragraph--type--article-content paragraph--view-mode--default"> <div class="ucb-article-text" itemprop="articleBody"> <div><p class="lead"><em><span>CU alum mixes CIA career into newly published cocktail memoir</span></em></p><hr><p>When <a href="/iafs/robert-dannenberg" rel="nofollow">Robert Dannenberg (IntlAf’78)</a> began photographing cocktails against the backdrop of mountain views from his home in Nederland, Colorado, during the COVID-19 lockdown, it started as a casual hobby. He’d send the photos to a group of retired CIA colleagues, all of them still close after decades of fieldwork and covert operations.</p><p>“One of them suggested putting them together in a book,” Dannenberg recalls. “That was the wife of my co-author, Joseph Mullin.”</p><p>What started as a way to pass the time soon stirred up something more refined.</p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-large"><div class="ucb-callout-content"><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-09/Rob%20Dannenberg%20cocktail.jpg?itok=gekDsqJL" width="1500" height="1460" alt="Rob Dannenberg sitting at bar holding an Old Fashioned cocktail"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text"><span> alumnus Rob Dannenberg (left) at The Fountain Inn in Washington, D.C., enjoying an Old Fashioned (the cocktail mentioned on p. 52 of </span><em><span>A Spy Walked Into A Bar</span></em><span>). (Photo: Rob Dannenberg)</span></p> </span> </div></div><p>“We were reminiscing about various points in our careers where cocktails were important in helping us get the mission accomplished,” he says.</p><p>Soon after, <a href="/coloradan/2025/07/30/spy-walked-bar-practitioners-guide-cocktail-tradecraft" rel="nofollow"><em>A Spy Walked Into A Bar: A Practitioner’s Guide to Cocktail Tradecraft</em></a> was born. The book blends real-life CIA stories from Dannenberg and Mullin’s careers with the drinks that helped mark the end of a successful operation or the forging of a crucial relationship.</p><p>“Cocktails and espionage are linked in real life as well as in fiction like the Ian Fleming novels,” Dannenberg says.</p><p>But his book isn’t a James Bond thriller. It’s a memoir in disguise, served shaken, not stirred.</p><p><strong>A Cold War toast</strong></p><p>For much of his life, Dannenberg worked in the shadows. Before eventually becoming the CIA’s former chief of operations for the Counterterrorism Center, chief of the Central Eurasia Division and head of the Information Operations (Cyber) Center, he was a field agent with boots on the ground.</p><p>“I was mostly a Russia guy and did two tours of duty in Moscow,” he says. “I was responsible for the agency’s global collection operations in Russia. Truly important and fascinating work if you consider what is going on in the world today.”</p><p>Dannenberg’s career was punctuated by moments where toasting a drink meant more than relaxation. Lifting a glass meant trust, camaraderie or closure. The stories in his book don’t spill classified secrets, but they do offer a glimpse into the rarely discussed human rituals of intelligence work.</p><p><strong>The Vesper and the Manhattan</strong></p><p>While his book includes everything from the Vesper Martini to bourbon sippers among a carefully curated selection of 58 cocktails, two stand out for Dannenberg.</p><p>“My favorite from the book is the Vesper Martini—probably the cocktail most truly associated with Fleming’s James Bond,” he says. “If you watch the movie <em>Casino Royale</em> with Daniel Craig, you will know what I mean.”</p><p>But when Dannenberg settles in for a drink of his own, he switches spirits. “If I’m in the mood for a whiskey cocktail, I’m a Manhattan guy,” he adds. “There are several variations of the Manhattan presented in the book.”</p><p>These two drinks have special connotations for Dannenberg, who associates each with specific operations he took part in during his career. Readers can find those stories within the pages, he promises.</p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-xlarge"><div class="ucb-callout-content"><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-09/A%20spy%20walked%20into%20a%20bar%20with%20cocktail.jpg?itok=TFdybXnl" width="1500" height="2000" alt="martini and book A Spy Walked Into a Bar on a wooden deck rail"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text">Rob Dannenberg began photographing cocktails against the backdrop of mountain views from his home in Nederland, Colorado, during the COVID-19 lockdown, sending the photos to a group of retired CIA colleagues. (Photo: Rob Dannenberg)</p> </span> </div></div><p><strong>Better than briefs</strong></p><p>After decades of writing intelligence briefings, reports and operational memos, Dannenberg says that <em>A Spy Walked Into A Bar</em> offered a new kind of writing freedom.</p><p>Mostly.</p><p>“Writing the book was a lot more fun than writing intelligence reports!” he says with a grin. “But one of the agreements you make with the agency when you have a top-secret security clearance is that you have to submit to them for approval anything you write.”</p><p>Dannenberg sent in a draft of the manuscript, and, in true CIA fashion, it was returned with numerous redactions.</p><p>“I thought the redactions might look amusing to the reader, so we went ahead and left the blacked-out text in the book,” he adds.</p><p><strong>Making a difference</strong></p><p>Dannenberg’s path to the CIA began at the , where he studied international affairs.</p><p>“I grew up wanting to work overseas,” he says. “While at CU, I narrowed it down to three options: State Department, U.S. military or CIA.”</p><p>The CIA called first, and he answered. Dannenberg served through tense political shifts, cyber conflicts and counterterrorism operations during his career. Along the way, he learned the personal cost of the work.</p><p>“Being an operations officer (or case officer) in the CIA isn’t easy,” he says. “There is a lot of pressure, a lot of time away from home and family, plenty of risk and times that require patience and persistence.”</p><p>Still, Dannenberg believes it was worth it.</p><p>“I was privileged to experience things in my career, both good and bad, that I would not have experienced in any other profession. My time at CU set the stage for a career that was more than I could have ever imagined,” he says.</p><p>Now retired, Dannenberg remains in touch with many of the colleagues who shaped his career and the book. He also hopes that today’s CU students will consider international affairs and public service.</p><p>“We live in dangerous times, and you can make a difference,” he says.</p><p>If <em>A Spy Walked Into A Bar</em> proves anything, it’s that even in the secretive world of espionage, stories still find a way to be told—<span>&nbsp;</span>even if the best parts are blacked out.</p><hr><p><em>Did you enjoy this article?&nbsp;</em><a href="https://cu.tfaforms.net/73" rel="nofollow"><em>Subscribe to our newsletter.</em></a><em>&nbsp;Passionate about international affairs?&nbsp;</em><a href="/iafs/alumni-giving" rel="nofollow"><em>Show your support.</em></a></p><p>&nbsp;</p></div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div>CU alum mixes CIA career into newly published cocktail memoir.</div> <h2> <div class="paragraph paragraph--type--ucb-related-articles-block paragraph--view-mode--default"> <div>Related Articles</div> </div> </h2> <div>Traditional</div> <div>0</div> <div> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-09/spy%20cocktails%20header.jpg?itok=7LND3le2" width="1500" height="660" alt="row of colorful cocktails on a bar"> </div> </div> <div>On</div> <div>White</div> Tue, 02 Sep 2025 19:53:24 +0000 Rachel Sauer 6210 at /asmagazine New exhibit celebrates ceramics at /asmagazine/2025/08/27/new-exhibit-celebrates-ceramics-cu-boulder <span>New exhibit celebrates ceramics at </span> <span><span>Rachel Sauer</span></span> <span><time datetime="2025-08-27T17:09:59-06:00" title="Wednesday, August 27, 2025 - 17:09">Wed, 08/27/2025 - 17:09</time> </span> <div> <div class="imageMediaStyle focal_image_wide"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/focal_image_wide/public/2025-08/Shaping%20Time%20birds%20close.jpg?h=56d0ca2e&amp;itok=plUCl8fl" width="1200" height="800" alt="green ceramic birds on wall in art installation"> </div> </div> <div role="contentinfo" class="container ucb-article-categories" itemprop="about"> <span class="visually-hidden">Categories:</span> <div class="ucb-article-category-icon" aria-hidden="true"> <i class="fa-solid fa-folder-open"></i> </div> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/30"> News </a> </div> <div role="contentinfo" class="container ucb-article-tags" itemprop="keywords"> <span class="visually-hidden">Tags:</span> <div class="ucb-article-tag-icon" aria-hidden="true"> <i class="fa-solid fa-tags"></i> </div> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/54" hreflang="en">Alumni</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/438" hreflang="en">Art and Art History</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/318" hreflang="en">CU Art Museum</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/1241" hreflang="en">Division of Arts and Humanities</a> </div> <a href="/asmagazine/rachel-sauer">Rachel Sauer</a> <div class="ucb-article-content ucb-striped-content"> <div class="container"> <div class="paragraph paragraph--type--article-content paragraph--view-mode--default"> <div class="ucb-article-text" itemprop="articleBody"> <div><p class="lead"><em>Opening Sept. 5 at the CU Art Museum, ‘Shaping Time: CU Ceramics Alumni 2000–2020’ focuses on themes including the environment, domesticity and rituals of home and material connections</em></p><hr><p>The joy—and sometimes frustration—of ceramics may be found in its contradictions: its fragile strength, its rough refinement, its elastic rigidity. Drop it and it might shatter, or it might survive millennia.</p><p>“It’s a material that’s about so much transformation,” says <a href="/artandarthistory/jeanne-quinn" rel="nofollow">Jeanne Quinn</a>, a professor of <a href="/artandarthistory/" rel="nofollow">art and art history</a>. “It goes from being very plastic and malleable to something that’s more like stone. And embedded in ceramics is all kinds of material meaning. Our students who are trained in ceramics are really trained to dig into technical mastery with the material but also dig into how you find meaning in the material itself, how you’re using the material as metaphor.”</p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-xlarge"><div class="ucb-callout-content"><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-08/Shaping%20Time%20birds%20close.jpg?itok=SZZpbPtF" width="1500" height="1000" alt="green ceramic birds on wall in art installation"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text" dir="ltr"><span>Myers Berg Studios, United States,&nbsp;</span><em><span>…in plain sight</span></em><span>, 2025, ceramic, maple,&nbsp;"Shaping Time: CU Ceramics Alumni 2000–2020," CU Art Museum, Sept. 5–Dec.19, 2025. (Photo Rachel Sauer; © Myers Berg Studios)</span></p> </span> </div></div><p>For students in the <a href="/artandarthistory/areas-study/ceramics" rel="nofollow">ceramics program</a>, the material also represents connection to an artistic lineage that has grown in breadth and renown through successive cohorts. It is a lineage nurtured by ceramics faculty Quinn, <a href="/artandarthistory/scott-chamberlin" rel="nofollow">Scott Chamberlin</a> and <a href="/artandarthistory/kim-dickey" rel="nofollow">Kim Dickey</a>, who have been teaching together and broadening the program for 25 years.</p><p>It is the length of those associations, in fact, that planted the seed of what has grown into the exhibit “<a href="/cuartmuseum/exhibitions/upcoming/shaping-time-cu-ceramics-alumni-2000-2020" rel="nofollow">Shaping Time: CU Ceramics Alumni 2000–2020</a>,” kicking off with an opening celebration Sept. 4 at the CU Art Museum and opening to the public Sept. 5.</p><p>“CU has a really long history of investing in ceramics and having a very strong ceramics program,” Quinn explains. “Kim (Dickey) had this idea that it’s our silver anniversary of teaching together, we have this incredible group of alumni, so many amazing artists who have come through, as undergrads, as post-bacs and as grad students, so we should create an exhibit to celebrate that.”</p><p><strong>A ceramic tradition</strong></p><p> has long championed the arts and supported artists, including ceramic artists who have created a student-focused program that prioritizes learning, technical mastery and artistic exploration. The ceramic program was significantly bolstered by <a href="/coloradan/2023/11/06/betty-woodman-master-potter-and-boulder-legend" rel="nofollow">Betty Woodman</a>, an internationally renowned artist whose 2006 retrospective show at the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York City was the first such show by a living female ceramicist, and who taught at for 30 years.</p><div class="ucb-box ucb-box-title-left ucb-box-alignment-left ucb-box-style-fill ucb-box-theme-lightgray"><div class="ucb-box-inner"><div class="ucb-box-title"><span>Shaping Time: CU Ceramics Alumni 2000–2020</span></div><div class="ucb-box-content"><p><i class="fa-solid fa-circle-arrow-right ucb-icon-color-gold">&nbsp;</i>&nbsp;<strong>What:</strong> <span lang="EN-US">The ceramics program is celebrating its history with faculty Scott Chamberlin, Kim Dickey, and Jeanne Quinn. To honor the achievements of artists who graduated from this program, faculty curators are partnering with the CU Art Museum to present a retrospective exhibition.</span><span>&nbsp;</span></p><p><i class="fa-solid fa-circle-arrow-right ucb-icon-color-gold">&nbsp;</i><span>&nbsp;<strong>When:</strong> </span><a href="/cuartmuseum/exhibitions/upcoming/shaping-time-cu-ceramics-alumni-2000-2020" rel="nofollow"><span lang="EN-US">Opening celebration</span></a><span lang="EN-US"> Sept. 4 from 4–6 p.m.; exhibit opens to the public Sept. 5-Dec. 19.</span><span> There will be an </span><a href="/cuartmuseum/programs-virtual-activities/symposium-celebrating-shaping-time-cu-ceramics-alumni-2000-2020" rel="nofollow"><span>all-day symposium</span></a><span> celebrating the exhibit Sept. 5.</span></p><p><i class="fa-solid fa-circle-arrow-right ucb-icon-color-gold">&nbsp;</i><span>&nbsp;<strong>Where:</strong> CU Art Museum</span></p><p class="text-align-center"><a class="ucb-link-button ucb-link-button-gold ucb-link-button-default ucb-link-button-regular" href="/cuartmuseum/exhibitions/upcoming/shaping-time-cu-ceramics-alumni-2000-2020" rel="nofollow"><span class="ucb-link-button-contents">Learn more</span></a></p></div></div></div><p>Chamberlin was a colleague of Woodman, and Quinn was a student of both Woodman and Chamberlin before joining the ceramics faculty in 1997.</p><p>“In this program, there is a real commitment to ceramics and its incredibly rich history,” Quinn says. “Every civilization from the beginning of time has had ceramics, so it’s an incredible kind of medium to work with and have the opportunity to reference all that. But I also feel like we have a very non-dogmatic approach to teaching—there’s so much history, but also so much space for experimentation and invention.</p><p>“Ceramics is a very demanding material. Anybody who’s ever sat down and tried to throw a pot on the wheel realizes oh, you don’t just toss this off. Every step requires real skill, real technical skill, but we’ve worked to build a program where students receive this amazing education in learning how to learn and learning how to grapple with the material and how the material can offer so many different avenues of expression.”</p><p><a href="https://www.ericagreenstudio.com/" rel="nofollow">Erica Green</a>, a post-baccalaureate student in the program between 2011 and 2013 and one of the exhibit’s 30 featured artists, credits the ceramics program’s emphasis on exploration with helping her forge her path as an artist.</p><p>“Ceramics is always my first love, but the nice thing about this department is you’re encouraged to follow the idea and not just the material,” Green says. “One of my professors in the program suggested I set clay to the side and focus on fiber and being more in tune with the material.”</p><p>Green’s work in the exhibit, “California King,” centers on a bed covered in a blanket of knotted felt and wool-blend fibers. “I work a lot in knots as a metaphor for mending and repair and healing.”</p><p>Artist <a href="https://www.luceroaguirre.com/" rel="nofollow">Lucero Aguirre</a>, who earned an MFA in the ceramics program, created the quilted tapestry “Mije” to include thousands of iridescent ceramic sequins—bringing together “the spaces of brownness and&nbsp;queerness in its sequined message,” Aguirre explains. “The term ‘mije’ is a gender-neutral version of the often-used Spanish term of endearment ‘mija,’ or daughter.”</p><p>In transforming “mija” into “mije,” Aguirre considers the “affective labor of navigating brownness as a queer subject. The piece responds to the way that intimacy is often gendered in Mexican and Latine spaces, leaving queer Latine bodies at once inside and outside.”</p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-xlarge"><div class="ucb-callout-content"><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-08/Shaping%20Time%20Erica%20Green%20California%20King.jpg?itok=QROLBAiN" width="1500" height="1000" alt="Erica Green assembles the knotted fiber components of artwork &quot;California King&quot;"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text"><span>Erica Green assembles her work "California King" (2022, knotted fibers on mattress) for the&nbsp;"Shaping Time: CU Ceramics Alumni 2000–2020" exhibit opening Sept. 5 at the CU Art Museum. (Photo Rachel Sauer; © Erica Green)</span></p> </span> </div></div><p><strong>‘You can do anything with clay’</strong></p><p>Quinn emphasizes that even though the exhibit celebrates the ceramics program, it also includes textiles, video works, photography, live performances and other media. “(The exhibit) runs the gamut of materials, but the unifying piece is that you can see that sense of commitment to the craft, to really handling a material with authority and also expressing something beyond the material.”</p><p>The hardest part, she adds, was choosing exhibit participants “because we’re in touch with all of these alumni, we’re following what they’re doing, they’re sending us updates.”</p><p>At the same time the exhibit participants were being chosen, Quinn and her colleagues were working with CU Art Museum staff to envision and plan the exhibit—a time-intensive but rewarding process, says Hope Saska, CU Art Museum acting director. Saska also partnered with Quinn, Dickey and Chamberlin to organize an <a href="/cuartmuseum/programs-virtual-activities/symposium-celebrating-shaping-time-cu-ceramics-alumni-2000-2020" rel="nofollow">all-day symposium</a> September 5 celebrating the exhibit; it will include performances, conversations and in-gallery artist talks.</p><p>“You say ceramics and people have this idea of, ‘Oh, you’re making pots on the wheel,’” Quinn says. “And ceramics certainly fits in this kind of lane, that is absolutely part of what we teach. But you also have an artist like <a href="https://caseywhittier.com/home.html" rel="nofollow">Casey Whittier</a>, who made thousands of ceramic beads and then strung them together into this gorgeous textile piece that hangs on a wall. Casey has taken ceramics, which you might think of as fixed and static, and then created this piece that hangs and moves and is as much a textile as it is ceramics.</p><p>“So, we want people to come to the exhibit, and especially we want students to think, ‘Oh, you can do anything with clay.’”</p><div class="row ucb-column-container"><div class="col ucb-column"> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-08/Shaping%20Time%20mije.jpg?itok=X0zMR5Xa" width="1500" height="1000" alt="word &quot;mije&quot; sewn in ceramic sequins on black fabric"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text"><span>Lucero Aguirre,&nbsp;</span><em><span>mije</span></em><span>, 2024, handmade and lustered ceramic sequins, thread and batting and fabric,&nbsp;"Shaping Time: CU Ceramics Alumni 2000–2020," CU Art Museum, Sept. 5–Dec. 19, 2025. (Photo: Rachel Sauer; © Lucero Aguirre)</span></p> </span> </div><div class="col ucb-column"> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-08/Shaping%20Time%20green%20and%20pink.jpg?itok=9NrcIwGG" width="1500" height="1000" alt="green and pink purse-shaped art piece "> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text"><span>Linda Nguyen Lopez, United States (1981),&nbsp;</span><em><span>Gummy Worm</span></em><span>,</span><em><span> Ombre Dust Furry</span></em><span>, 2021, porcelain,&nbsp;"Shaping Time: CU Ceramics Alumni 2000–2020," CU Art Museum, Sept. 5–Dec. 19, 2025. (Photo: Rachel Sauer, © Linda Nguyen Lopez)</span></p> </span> </div></div><div class="row ucb-column-container"><div class="col ucb-column"> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-08/Shaping%20Time%20vessel%20close.jpg?itok=edgqSluy" width="1500" height="2251" alt="long-necked ceramic vessel with gold handle and textured floral design"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text"><span>Joanna Powell, United States (1981),&nbsp;</span><em><span>Flower Vessel no. 1</span></em><span>, 2019, earthenware, majolica, gold luster,&nbsp;"Shaping Time: CU Ceramics Alumni 2000–2020," CU Art Museum, Sept. 5–Dec. 19, 2025. (Photo Rachel Sauer; © Joanna Powell)</span></p> </span> </div><div class="col ucb-column"> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-08/Shaping%20Time%20mosaic%20woman.jpg?itok=Om1u_khX" width="1500" height="2251" alt="mosaic of woman with dark hair made from clay tile"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text"><span>Sandra Trujillo, United States (1967),&nbsp;</span><em><span>Mosaic - Yellow</span></em><span>, 2024, Mexican Smalti (glass), Wedi (polystyrene board), wood, steel, "Shaping Time: CU Ceramics Alumni 2000–2020," CU Art Museum, Sept. 5–Dec. 19, 2025. (Photo: Rachel Sauer; © Sandra Trujillo)</span></p> </span> </div><div class="col ucb-column"> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-08/Shaping%20Time%20video.jpg?itok=ZlrrBPG5" width="1500" height="2251" alt="video screen showing woman wearing black clothes and digging in the woods"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text"><span>Julie Poitras Santos, United States (1967),&nbsp;</span><em><span>The Conversation</span></em><span>, 2019, single channel video,&nbsp;"Shaping Time: CU Ceramics Alumni 2000–2020," CU Art Museum, Sept. 5–Dec. 19, 2025. (Photo: Rachel Sauer; © Julie Poitras Santos)</span></p> </span> </div></div><hr><p><em>Did you enjoy this article?&nbsp;</em><a href="https://cu.tfaforms.net/73" rel="nofollow"><em>Subscribe to our newsletter.</em></a><em>&nbsp;Passionate about art and art history?&nbsp;</em><a href="https://giving.cu.edu/fund/ethnic-studies-general-gift-fund" rel="nofollow"><em>Show your support.</em></a></p><p>&nbsp;</p></div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div>Opening Sept. 5 at the CU Art Museum, ‘Shaping Time: CU Ceramics Alumni 2000–2020’ focuses on themes including the environment, domesticity and rituals of home and material connections.</div> <h2> <div class="paragraph paragraph--type--ucb-related-articles-block paragraph--view-mode--default"> <div>Related Articles</div> </div> </h2> <div>Traditional</div> <div>0</div> <div> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-08/Shaping%20Time%20curl%20cropped.jpg?itok=maWMRujg" width="1500" height="599" alt="gray ceramic curl on black shelf"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text"><span>Matthew McConnell, United States (1979),&nbsp;</span><em><span>Didn’t Miss a Thing</span></em><span>, 2023, dark stoneware, twine and twist ties on steel panels,&nbsp;"Shaping Time: CU Ceramics Alumni 2000–2020," CU Art Museum, Sept. 5–Dec. 19, 2025. (Photo Rachel Sauer; © Matthew McConnell)</span></p> </span> </div> <div>On</div> <div>White</div> <div>Top image: Matthew McConnell, "Didn’t Miss a Thing," 2023, dark stoneware, twine and twist ties on steel panels, "Shaping Time: CU Ceramics Alumni 2000–2020," CU Art Museum, Sept. 5–Dec. 19, 2025. (Photo: Rachel Sauer; © Matthew McConnell)</div> Wed, 27 Aug 2025 23:09:59 +0000 Rachel Sauer 6207 at /asmagazine ‘There’s no standard way to be Indian or Indigenous’ /asmagazine/2025/08/13/theres-no-standard-way-be-indian-or-indigenous <span>‘There’s no standard way to be Indian or Indigenous’</span> <span><span>Rachel Sauer</span></span> <span><time datetime="2025-08-13T12:57:35-06:00" title="Wednesday, August 13, 2025 - 12:57">Wed, 08/13/2025 - 12:57</time> </span> <div> <div class="imageMediaStyle focal_image_wide"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/focal_image_wide/public/2025-08/Believing%20in%20Indians%20thumbnail.jpg?h=f892968c&amp;itok=rP2rsxd5" width="1200" height="800" alt="book cover of Believing in Indians"> </div> </div> <div role="contentinfo" class="container ucb-article-categories" itemprop="about"> <span class="visually-hidden">Categories:</span> <div class="ucb-article-category-icon" aria-hidden="true"> <i class="fa-solid fa-folder-open"></i> </div> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/346"> Books </a> </div> <div role="contentinfo" class="container ucb-article-tags" itemprop="keywords"> <span class="visually-hidden">Tags:</span> <div class="ucb-article-tag-icon" aria-hidden="true"> <i class="fa-solid fa-tags"></i> </div> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/54" hreflang="en">Alumni</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/58" hreflang="en">Books</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/1246" hreflang="en">College of Arts and Sciences</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/1202" hreflang="en">Indigenous peoples</a> </div> <span>Chris Quirk</span> <div class="ucb-article-content ucb-striped-content"> <div class="container"> <div class="paragraph paragraph--type--article-content paragraph--view-mode--default"> <div class="ucb-article-text" itemprop="articleBody"> <div><p class="lead"><em><span>In new memoir, alumnus Tony Tekaroniake Evans eschews narrow notions of identity, especially Indigenous identity</span></em></p><hr><p><span>Of all his childhood memories, one in particular sticks in the mind of&nbsp;</span><a href="https://www.tonytekaroniakeevans.com/" rel="nofollow"><span>Tony Tekaroniake Evans</span></a><span> (DistSt'86, focusing on cultural anthropology, biology and geography): In his third-grade class in Georgia, while making decorations for Thanksgiving, his classmates began asking about American Indians.</span></p><p><span>“Where are they? Can we meet them?” they asked.</span></p><p><span>“I’m an Indian!” said the young Evans, who had recently begun to learn more about his Mohawk heritage. His teacher replied that, no, the Indians were gone. “The teacher said Indians were extinct,” Evans recalls. “That was a little traumatic, and I realized I was going to have to take what I was learning in school with a grain of salt. After all, my grandmother spoke Mohawk in our house.”</span></p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-large"><div class="ucb-callout-content"><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-08/Believing%20in%20Indians%20cover.jpg?itok=zStcH0N9" width="1500" height="2243" alt="cover of book Believing in Indians"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text">In his new memoir, alumnus <a href="https://www.tonytekaroniakeevans.com/" rel="nofollow"><span>Tony Tekaroniake Evans</span></a><span> explores history, identity and society through a personal lens, encouraging readers to eschew received and narrow notions of identity, especially Indigenous identity.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></p> </span> </div></div><p><span>Evans recounts the episode in his new memoir,&nbsp;</span><a href="https://wsupress.wsu.edu/product/believing-in-indians/" rel="nofollow"><em><span>Believing in Indians: a Mixed-Blood Odyssey</span></em></a><span>, published by Basalt Books. In the book, Evans explores history, identity and society through a personal lens. Along the way, he encourages readers to eschew received and narrow notions of identity, especially Indigenous identity.&nbsp;</span></p><p><span>The author of three books, Evans is also a journalist, historian, columnist and public speaker. He began his career writing for the </span><em><span>Santa Fe New Mexican</span></em><span> and the </span><em><span>Taos News</span></em><span> newspapers and since then has written for A&amp;E Networks, History.com, </span><em><span>High Country News</span></em><span> and Smithsonian’s </span><em><span>American Indian</span></em><span> magazine. In addition, he has thousands of reporting bylines over the past three decades for the </span><em><span>Idaho Mountain Express</span></em><span>, his hometown newspaper in Ketchum, Idaho.</span></p><p><span>“People are so much more interesting than we can realize by glancing at their appearance, or making stereotypical assumptions about someone’s background, knowledge and interests,” he says. “It’s important to hear the details, because details bring us together as human beings, and that’s what I hope I’m doing with my book.”</span></p><p><span><strong>Telling family stories</strong></span></p><p><span>The jarring incident in the classroom spurred Evans to ask more questions about his family and background.</span></p><p><span>“My mother started telling me stories, and that my name, Tekaroniake, meant ‘two skies’ in Mohawk,” he says. “My Aunt Nadine had a medicine pouch made for me, and my mentor, who was also my mother’s childhood friend, Ed Two-Axe Earley, sent me some books from the reservation. That’s where my life journey began—but it didn’t end there.”</span></p><p><span>One of the questions about identity that Evans weaves through the book is who decides, and on what grounds? “If you tell people you’re Indian, they’re often going to have all these boxes to check—language, fluency, culture. Are you from the reservation? Do you know your history? It just goes on and on,” he says.</span></p><p><span>“When do you stop being Indian in somebody else’s eyes? When you get a vacuum cleaner? When you do yoga? There’s no standard way to be Indian or Indigenous. My Jewish grandfather was taken in by the Mohawks. He married my grandmother and worked with them building the Manhattan skyline. Did he stop being Jewish?”</span></p><p><span>In his book, Evans tells ironically of receiving his official registration “as an Indian and a member of the Mohawks of Kanawà:ke Band” from the registrar of Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development of Canada. “Becoming Indian is no simple process,” he writes. “Today, as a newly minted official Indian, I could go down to a nearby reservation and legally take peyote, stay up all night and visit with ancestors in the spirit world. Or I could just stay home and watch PBS Masterpiece programming and have a glass of wine.”</span></p><p><span><strong>Time spent at CU was rewarding</strong></span></p><p><span>His interest and investigation of his own identity led Evans to study cultural anthropology at the .</span></p><p><span>“I learned a lot of wonderful things at CU and absolutely loved my time there,” he says. “I found that I could learn from many cultures, not just my own. And I learned to interpret Iroquois traditions in my own way. Our Great Law of Peace, perhaps a thousand years old, stems from an experience of compassion and understanding for the pain of others, and how to heal from violence and move on from retribution to a better way of life.”</span></p><p><span>Evans’ book ranges across cultural topics and religious traditions, and provides numerous history lessons along the way, but stays firmly in the personal throughout. “I realized that the book needed to be about my story and emerging sense of Native values, and all of its quirks and weirdness, and heartache and humor,” he explains.</span></p><p><span>“Memoir is a really important art form. It is personal and subjective, and also specific. It gets deeper than the ethnographic generalities that people recount in much of the scholarly writing on native history and culture.” Evans also makes a case for what Indigenous people and traditions have to offer the world in a turbulent and uncertain moment: “Indigenous cultures can provide spiritual renewal and a sustainable path forward for humanity.”</span></p><hr><p><em>Did you enjoy this article?&nbsp;</em><a href="https://cu.tfaforms.net/73" rel="nofollow"><em>Subscribe to our newsletter.</em></a><em>&nbsp;Passionate about arts and sciences?&nbsp;</em><a href="/artsandsciences/giving" rel="nofollow"><em>Show your support.</em></a></p><p>&nbsp;</p></div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div>In new memoir, alumnus Tony Tekaroniake Evans eschews narrow notions of identity, especially Indigenous identity.</div> <h2> <div class="paragraph paragraph--type--ucb-related-articles-block paragraph--view-mode--default"> <div>Related Articles</div> </div> </h2> <div>Traditional</div> <div>0</div> <div> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-08/Believing%20in%20Indians%20header.jpg?itok=mOLh99bW" width="1500" height="692" alt="Shoulder beading and fringe on brown leather Native American tunic"> </div> </div> <div>On</div> <div>White</div> Wed, 13 Aug 2025 18:57:35 +0000 Rachel Sauer 6194 at /asmagazine Family shares courtroom and campus legacy /asmagazine/2025/08/01/family-shares-courtroom-and-campus-legacy <span>Family shares courtroom and campus legacy</span> <span><span>Rachel Sauer</span></span> <span><time datetime="2025-08-01T14:06:32-06:00" title="Friday, August 1, 2025 - 14:06">Fri, 08/01/2025 - 14:06</time> </span> <div> <div class="imageMediaStyle focal_image_wide"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/focal_image_wide/public/2025-08/Maureen%20and%20Don%20McGinnis%20thumbnail.jpg?h=f67c3628&amp;itok=if25a83b" width="1200" height="800" alt="Don and Maureen McGinnis"> </div> </div> <div role="contentinfo" class="container ucb-article-categories" itemprop="about"> <span class="visually-hidden">Categories:</span> <div class="ucb-article-category-icon" aria-hidden="true"> <i class="fa-solid fa-folder-open"></i> </div> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/30"> News </a> </div> <div role="contentinfo" class="container ucb-article-tags" itemprop="keywords"> <span class="visually-hidden">Tags:</span> <div class="ucb-article-tag-icon" aria-hidden="true"> <i class="fa-solid fa-tags"></i> </div> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/532" hreflang="en">Advancement</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/54" hreflang="en">Alumni</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/1246" hreflang="en">College of Arts and Sciences</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/212" hreflang="en">Political Science</a> </div> <span>Cody DeBos</span> <div class="ucb-article-content ucb-striped-content"> <div class="container"> <div class="paragraph paragraph--type--article-content paragraph--view-mode--default"> <div class="ucb-article-text" itemprop="articleBody"> <div><p class="lead"><em><span>Father and daughter Donald and Maureen McGinnis both pursued educations and then careers in the law</span></em></p><hr><p>When Judge Maureen McGinnis (PolSci ’00) steps into the courtroom, she carries more than a robe and gavel with her. Several decades of family legacy and lessons in reputation, integrity and the power of doing the right thing have brought Maureen where she is today.</p><p>But her journey to the bench didn’t begin in law school. It started at the dinner table during conversations with her father, Donald McGinnis (A&amp;S ’69), a respected Michigan attorney who built his own career on relationships and the strength of his word.</p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-large"><div class="ucb-callout-content"><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-08/Don%20and%20Maureen%20McGinnis.JPG?itok=J5-RcO7D" width="1500" height="2000" alt="Don and Maureen McGinnis"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text"><span>Don and Maureen McGinnis at a legal event, one of many they have attended together.</span></p> </span> </div></div><p>“I’ve always looked up to my dad,” Maureen says. “Getting an opportunity to grow up in a family where you have a parent that’s a lawyer, you get sort of immersed in that.”</p><p>Maureen’s immersion led her to follow in her father’s footsteps to , where Donald first fell in love with the idea of carving his own path in life.</p><p>“It’s been a great ride for me from back in Boulder all the way until now,” Donald says.</p><p><strong>CU roots of the family tree</strong></p><p>For Donald, was a natural fit. His parents were avid skiers, and he’d grown up making trips out west. When it came time to choose a college, there was little question where he would go.</p><p>“It was definitely going to be CU without question,” he says. “I think it was the only place I applied.”</p><p>His daughter didn’t need much convincing, either. Long before she would set foot on campus, she had already envisioned her future as a CU Buffalo and a lawyer.</p><p>“I was the seventh grader wearing the University of Colorado sweatshirt and telling everybody I was going to go to law school. I don’t think I ever wavered from that,” she recalls.</p><p>What began with an interest in skiing in the 1960s has since evolved into a lifelong connection to a place that would shape the beginning of both their careers. For Donald, the legacy is deeply personal.</p><p>“Obviously, my legacy is my daughter attending CU, which is a very proud one. She also chose to join my profession and then excelled so well at it. I couldn’t be prouder,” he says.</p><p><strong>A shared journey in the courtroom</strong></p><p>Despite knowing she wanted a career in law, Maureen says she didn’t know what her path would look like. Long before she wore a judge’s robe, she walked into her first job as a lawyer and found herself working alongside her dad.</p><p>“I don’t think I had a huge plan for exactly what I was going to do once I became a lawyer,” she says. “But the door was open. As soon as I started working with my dad, there was nothing to figure out. I wasn’t going to leave.”</p><p>Donald McGinnis built his family law practice from the ground up, never working for another firm, never having a boss. Running his own practice has helped him understand more than most the value of connection in a field that can be harsh and impersonal.</p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-xlarge"><div class="ucb-callout-content"> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-08/Maureen%20McGinnis%20swearing%20in.jpg?itok=WtvDVnMB" width="1500" height="1125" alt="Don and Maureen McGinnis in courtroom facing judge"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text"><span>Don McGinnis (left) moves for Maureen McGinnis' (right, back to camera) admission to the State Bar of Michigan to practice law.&nbsp;</span></p> </span> </div></div><p>“I would always like to be remembered as the handshake lawyer. If I tell you something and shake hands on it, I don’t need to have 18 emails and five letters,” he says. “That’s the way I would like to be remembered—as a lawyer’s lawyer.”</p><p>During her time working at her father’s law practice, Maureen absorbed plenty of legal strategy, but his passion for reputation also bled through.</p><p>“People will talk about how you treat them, how you honor your word. … I remember that being really constant in our discussions about the practice of law,” she says.</p><p>Working with her dad gave Maureen a head start, but most of all showed her that law could be more than a job. It would soon turn into a lifelong calling shaped by values passed down through the generations.</p><p><strong>Carrying the legacy forward</strong></p><p>After more than a decade of practicing as a lawyer, Maureen felt pulled toward something more. She wanted a way to serve not just individual clients but her entire community.</p><p>“I’ve always had a passion for community service and engagement. So, getting to have the role I have now pretty much marries both of those things,” she says.</p><p>The role she speaks humbly of is presiding judge at the 52-4 District Court in Troy, Michigan, where Maureen weighs her opinion on cases that impact everyday lives.</p><p>She was elected to the bench in 2014, but the decision to run had been quietly planted years earlier in conversations with her father.</p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-xlarge"><div class="ucb-callout-content"> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-08/Maureen%20McGinnis%20with%20parents.jpg?itok=VwnchaX6" width="1500" height="1125" alt="Maureen McGinnis in courtroom with parents"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text">Maureen McGinnis (center) <span>celebrates with her parents after graduating law school and passing the bar exam.</span></p> </span> </div></div><p>“He sort of has this habit of putting something in your head, and if we talk about it enough, it’s like it helps you visualize it—even when it’s something that isn’t really on the horizon,” she says.</p><p>Housing disputes, traffic violations and local criminal offenses are just a few of the cases now crossing Maureen’s desk every day. She says it isn’t glamorous work, but it directly shapes her community, and for Maureen, that is exactly the point.</p><p>“She sets an example that other lawyers and I commend her for. It makes it easier for the litigating parties when you have a smart judge and smart lawyers,” Donald says.</p><p><strong>Reflections on CU and the legacy they’re still writing</strong></p><p>Looking back, both Maureen and Donald agree their time at influenced more than just their resumes. For Donald, college was a time of discovery and independence. After decades of legal work, he looks back on his time in Boulder as uniquely freeing.</p><p>“I took it way too serious,” he laughs. “College is probably the only four-year period of time that you have in your life where you don’t really have a lot of responsibility. You should enjoy it with great vigor, in my opinion.”</p><p>Maureen, always focused on the next step, says she sometimes wishes she’d taken more of those opportunities—like studying abroad in Australia. But she’s never questioned the choice to attend CU. In fact, she’s already planning to pass that connection on to her kids.</p><p><span>“If you have an ability to start a legacy in that way, it’s amazing. I feel like having those shared memories about places and things that we experienced at CU keeps my dad and I very close. It’s something you can never take away.”</span></p><div class="row ucb-column-container"><div class="col ucb-column"> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-08/Don%20McGinnis%20campaigning%20for%20Maureen.JPG?itok=7bvJEBI7" width="1500" height="1125" alt="Don McGinnis in white SUV campaigning for Maureen McGinnis"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text">Don McGinnis on the campaign trail <span>when Maureen McGinnis ran for district court judge.</span></p> </span> </div><div class="col ucb-column"> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-08/Maureen%20McGinnis%20and%20other%20judges.JPG?itok=66k1dNMt" width="1500" height="1000" alt="Maureen McGinnis in black judge robes with other judges at investiture ceremony"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text"><span>Maureen McGinnis (first row, right) at her investiture when she was seated as a judge.</span></p> </span> </div></div><div class="row ucb-column-container"><div class="col ucb-column"> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-08/Don%20McGinnis%20on%20campus.jpeg?itok=PRioIHX0" width="1500" height="1125" alt="Don McGinnis with Flatirons in background"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text">Don McGinnis when he returned to Boulder to help his daughter, Maureen, move into Farrand Hall.</p> </span> </div><div class="col ucb-column"> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-08/Maureen%20McGinnis%20undergrad.jpeg?itok=Osgl0RPy" width="1500" height="1125" alt="Maureen McGinnis with friends at "> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text">Maureen McGinnis (center) with friends while she was an undergraduate student at .</p> </span> </div></div><hr><p><em>Did you enjoy this article?&nbsp;</em><a href="https://cu.tfaforms.net/73" rel="nofollow"><em>Subscribe to our newsletter.</em></a><em>&nbsp;Passionate about arts and sciences?&nbsp;</em><a href="/artsandsciences/giving" rel="nofollow"><em>Show your support.</em></a></p><p>&nbsp;</p></div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div>Father and daughter Donald and Maureen McGinnis both pursued educations and then careers in the law.</div> <h2> <div class="paragraph paragraph--type--ucb-related-articles-block paragraph--view-mode--default"> <div>Related Articles</div> </div> </h2> <div>Traditional</div> <div>0</div> <div> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-08/McGinnis%20header.jpg?itok=vZrFuWQl" width="1500" height="546" alt="Don and Maureen McGinnis"> </div> </div> <div>On</div> <div>White</div> <div>All photos courtesy Maureen McGinnis</div> Fri, 01 Aug 2025 20:06:32 +0000 Rachel Sauer 6189 at /asmagazine Alum’s resumé: veterinarian, reality TV star, stand-up comic /asmagazine/2025/06/09/alums-resume-veterinarian-reality-tv-star-stand-comic <span>Alum’s resumé: veterinarian, reality TV star, stand-up comic</span> <span><span>Rachel Sauer</span></span> <span><time datetime="2025-06-09T11:15:10-06:00" title="Monday, June 9, 2025 - 11:15">Mon, 06/09/2025 - 11:15</time> </span> <div> <div class="imageMediaStyle focal_image_wide"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/focal_image_wide/public/2025-06/Kevin%20Fitzgerald%20puppies%20thumbnail.jpg?h=e2b7ef1f&amp;itok=IvV3rUa7" width="1200" height="800" alt="Kevin Fitzgerald holding three King Charles Spaniel puppies"> </div> </div> <div role="contentinfo" class="container ucb-article-categories" itemprop="about"> <span class="visually-hidden">Categories:</span> <div class="ucb-article-category-icon" aria-hidden="true"> <i class="fa-solid fa-folder-open"></i> </div> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/30"> News </a> </div> <div role="contentinfo" class="container ucb-article-tags" itemprop="keywords"> <span class="visually-hidden">Tags:</span> <div class="ucb-article-tag-icon" aria-hidden="true"> <i class="fa-solid fa-tags"></i> </div> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/54" hreflang="en">Alumni</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/1246" hreflang="en">College of Arts and Sciences</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/1242" hreflang="en">Division of Natural Sciences</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/256" hreflang="en">Ecology and Evolutionary Biology</a> </div> <a href="/asmagazine/bradley-worrell">Bradley Worrell</a> <div class="ucb-article-content ucb-striped-content"> <div class="container"> <div class="paragraph paragraph--type--article-content paragraph--view-mode--default"> <div class="ucb-article-text" itemprop="articleBody"> <div><p class="lead"><em><span>As he muses about conservation, 1970s Boulder and how Keith Richards prompted him to finish his college career, Kevin Fitzgerald still has his sights on crafting the perfect joke</span></em></p><hr><p><span>Did you hear the one about the veterinarian who is also a stand-up comedian?</span></p><p><span>It’s no joke.</span></p><p><span>It’s the very real-life story of alum Kevin Fitzgerald, who is a staple of the Denver comedy scene and who has opened for such nationally recognized acts as Joan Rivers, George Lopez, Jeff Foxworthy and Saturday Night Live alums Kevin Nealon and Norm Macdonald.</span></p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-large"><div class="ucb-callout-content"><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-06/Kevin%20Fitzgerald%20and%20Norm%20Macdonald.png?itok=TkIKI8yc" width="1500" height="2000" alt="Norm Macdonald and Kevin Fitzgerald"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text"> alumnus Kevin Fitzgerald (right) with the late Norm Macdonald (left), for whom Fitzgerald opened. (Photo: Kevin Fitzgerald)</p> </span> </div></div><p><span>Meanwhile, Fitzgerald has spent the past four decades working as a Denver veterinarian who specializes in treating exotic animals and has become something of a celebrity as one of the featured vets on Animal Planet’s popular TV series “Emergency Vets.”</span></p><p><span>Fitzgerald is also a wildlife conservationist—and with the recent publication of his autobiography </span><em><span>It Started with a Turtle</span></em><span>—he adds “published author” to his growing list of job titles.</span></p><p><span>The Denver native enjoys talking about his experiences as a comedian and a veterinarian, but most of all he enjoys reminiscing about his time at , where he earned his undergraduate, master’s and PhD degrees. He says the lessons he learned in the classrooms—and in the local music venues where he worked security—shaped him into the man he is today.</span></p><p><span>“Boulder is a magical place,” he says. “Boulder has a different feel than other college towns—and the campus is absolutely beautiful. I first visited when I was in high school and I decided then and there that it was the place for me.”</span></p><p><span>Raised in a working class home, Fitzgerald says receiving a scholarship for being on the swim team made it possible for him to be able to attend college starting in 1969.</span></p><p><span>For his undergraduate degree, Fitzgerald majored in biology, and he credits biology Professor Dick Jones; Professor Hobart Smith, then chairman of the Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology; Professor David Chiszar, who was an internationally renowned herpetologist known for his work with rattlesnakes; and history Professor Charles “Chuck” Middleton, whom Fitzgerald says made history come alive, with being mentors.</span></p><p><span>“Even back then, was known as a party school, but if you wanted to, you could get a great education there,” he says. “They didn’t so much teach you as inspire you. I had wonderful mentors who wanted me to succeed.”</span></p><p><span>Fitzgerald says his initial plan upon entering college was to get his bachelor’s degree from and then attend Colorado State University to receive a veterinary degree. However, there was a waiting list to get into the CSU veterinarian program at the time, so Fitzgerald says Jones convinced him to continue pursuing his education at by obtaining his master’s and PhD degrees, which he did.</span></p><p><span>“I’m still reaping the benefits of that wonderful education every day,” he says.</span></p><p><span><strong>Working security for a hamburger and $1.35 an hour</strong></span></p><p><span>To earn extra money for school, not long after arriving on the Boulder campus Fitzgerald took a job working for Chuck Morris (the future CEO/president of national concert promoter AEG Live), who hosted concerts at local music venues including Tulagi and The Sink.</span></p><p><span>“There were so many great venues in Boulder at the time,” Fitzgerald recalls. “There was Tulagi, the Blue Note, The Olympic, Shannon’s, the Good Earth and J.J. McCabes. The music venues were legendary—and they hosted a lot of great bands before they became famous. Not just rock bands, but soul bands and country bands, so there was something for everyone. There was just so much great music.”</span></p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-large"><div class="ucb-callout-content"><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-06/Kevin%20doing%20standup.jpg?itok=K9f2qkmR" width="1500" height="2251" alt="Kevin Fitzgerald performing standup comedy onstage"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text">Kevin Fitzgerald has been a staple of the Denver comedy scene for many years. (Photo: Kevin Fitzgerald)</p> </span> </div></div><p><span>Fitzgerald’s job working as a bouncer for local music venues led to jobs working security for concert promoters Bill Graham and Barry Fey, who produced nationwide shows featuring musical acts including The Grateful Dead, Willie Nelson, The Eagles, The Who, Jethro Tull and The Rolling Stones.</span></p><p><span>Years later, Fitzgerald still recalls Fey’s simple job pitch: “I’m going to pay you a buck-thirty-five an hour and give you a hamburger every shift and you’re going to meet more girls than Frank Sinatra.”</span></p><p><span>Fitzgerald says he has many fond memories of those times and particularly of the bands who performed—especially The Rolling Stones, who he says never forgot their roots and gave selflessly for some special fans.</span></p><p><span>“Back in the day, before handicapped seating was widely made available, people in wheelchairs didn’t get good seats at concerts and they were stigmatized by making them all sit together. It was awful,” he recalls. “So, before every show The Rolling Stones did, Mick Jagger would ask me: ‘How many (handicapped) chairs are there, and in which section, Kevin?’</span></p><p><span>“‘I’d say, ‘23 chairs and they’re in section three.’</span></p><p><span>“Jagger would grab 23 cassette tapes and 23 concert T-shirts. He’d put a towel over his head or put a hoodie up and he’d personally go to the wheelchair section and hand out a cassette tape and a T-shirt to each person. He’d say, ‘Thanks a million for coming; we couldn’t do it without you,’” Fitzgerald recalls. “He didn’t do it as a photo op; he specifically kept himself covered up so the rest of the concertgoers wouldn’t know what he was up to.</span></p><p><span>“People can say whatever they want about The Rolling Stones, about Mick Jagger and Keith Richards, but they didn’t forget where they came from,” he adds. “And Mick would always say, ‘We’re blessed. You know, Kevin, we can’t forget how lucky we are.’ That really made an impression on me.”</span></p><p><span>What’s more, Fitzgerald credits Richards with prompting him to go back to college to get his veterinary degree.</span></p><p><span>“I remember we were in Philadelphia for a show, with more tour dates coming up, and I was unsure what I should be doing with my life. I was talking about it with my boss, Jimmy Callahan, who was the head bouncer, and he said, ‘Why don’t you ask Keith?’</span></p><p><span>“I knew Keith, so I asked him: ‘Should I stick with you guys, or should I go back to school?’</span></p><p><span>“And Keith said, ‘Oh, no, go back to school. Do you really want to be a bouncer at (age) 50?’</span></p><p><span>“When Keith Richards says something, he’s the coolest cat in the world. So, I got on a plane and I came back to Denver,” Fitzgerald says. “My brother picked me up at the airport, and I said, ‘Keith told me to get a grip on my life and go back to school.’ And my brother said, ‘Well, when Keith says something, you better do it.’ So, I applied to veterinarian school again and I got in.”</span></p><p><span><strong>Becoming a vet … and a reality TV star</strong></span></p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-large"><div class="ucb-callout-content"><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-06/Kevin%20w%20King%20Charles%20Spaniel%20puppies.jpg?itok=iz9SZHrK" width="1500" height="1799" alt="Kevin Fitzgerald holding three King Charles Spaniel puppies"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text">Kevin Fitzgerald <span>has been a veterinarian in Denver for the past four decades and is one of the featured vets on Animal Planet’s popular TV series “Emergency Vets.” (Photo: Kevin Fitzgerald)</span></p> </span> </div></div><p><span>Fitzgerald obtained his degree in veterinarian medicine from CSU in 1983. He later took a job with the Alameda East Veterinary Hospital in Denver, where he has been working for the past 40 years.</span></p><p><span>“Veterinary medicine is a harsh mistress. It asks a lot of us (vets), but it’s very rewarding,” he says. “It’s been a wonderful career for me. To be successful, you have to love animals, but you also have to love people.</span></p><p><span>“Sometimes people would tell me, ‘My daughter would be a great veterinarian. She hates people but she’s great with animals.’ And I would always say, ‘No, no, no. People have to trust you when they bring their animal to you, so it’s important that you are able to connect with them.’”</span></p><p><span>Fitzgerald’s role at the Denver animal hospital became much more widely recognized starting in 1998, with the launch of the Animal Planet’s TV show </span><em><span>Emergency Vets</span></em><span>. At the time, the TV series </span><em><span>ER</span></em><span> was hugely popular, and the producer believed a reality show about veterinarians treating all types of animals would appeal to Animal Planet viewers, Fitzgerald says. That proved to be the case, as the show and its successor, </span><em><span>E-Vet Interns</span></em><span>, ran for a combined 11 seasons, and were two of the network’s top-rated shows.</span></p><p><span>“For me, it was just too weird to watch myself on TV, but it was quite an experience,” Fitzgerald says. “People started recognizing me from the show. Once, I was at the Denver airport and this young kid was staring at me. Finally, he said, ‘You look like that guy from the TV show on Animal Planet.’</span></p><p><span>“I said, ‘I am that guy,’ and the kid says, ‘Yeah, you wish,’” Fitzgerald says with a laugh.</span></p><p><span>He says his work as a veterinarian led naturally to his conservancy work. He has served on the Denver Zoo’s board of directors since 2009 and has been involved in several projects, including the creation of a huge nature conservancy in Mongolia.</span></p><p><span>“There’s 10 million other forms of life on this planet besides us, and we were given this wonderful biodiversity. Those animals are waiting for us to use our intellect to save this place,” he says. “We’re borrowing this planet from our grandchildren, so we have to win this one, because we’re given just this one planet. Realizing that, that’s how I went from veterinary medicine to conservation.”</span></p><p><span><strong>‘Like being shot out of canon’</strong></span></p><p><span>While being a veterinarian, an Animal Planet reality TV star and conservationist might seem to all naturally fit together, Fitzgerald acknowledges becoming a stand-up comedian is a less obvious choice to add to the mix. He says he was inspired to do so in part by watching comedians perform as the opening act for bands where he provided security and by seeing one of his friends perform.</span></p><p><span>“I started doing stand-up in 1986. At the time, a friend of mine was doing comedy, and he didn’t seem that funny to me, but he was getting paid to do it. I told myself, ‘I can at least be as bad as that guy,’” he says with a laugh.</span></p><p><span>The appeal for doing stand-up comes partly from the enjoyment of making people laugh and partly from the exhilaration of being on a stage, Fitzgerald says, explaining, “The feeling is like being shot out of a cannon.”</span></p><p><span>It took some trial and error in the beginning, Fitzgerald admits, before he developed his own comedic timing. The strategy he settled on involved trying to tell as many jokes as he could in rapid-fire succession at the start and telling jokes that would appeal to the broadest audience demographic.</span></p><p><span>“My job is to tell jokes that make everyone laugh—the old guy and the young guy, the black guy and the white guy, the man and the woman sitting next to him,” he says. “I don’t think it works to say, ‘This is a young person’s joke; you wouldn’t understand.’ The best jokes touch everyone.”</span></p><p><span>Fitzgerald’s brand of comedy was on full display during a recent Sunday evening show at a south Denver comedy club, where he was zinging his audience with one-liners about being an old guy:</span></p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-large"><div class="ucb-callout-content"><blockquote><p class="lead"><span>“Our lives are short, but they are beautiful. My whole life, whatever I’ve done, has been small and beautiful. The fate of the Western world doesn’t hang on the balance of what I do in the exam rooms with people and their animals, but I try to make my little side of the street better as a veterinarian and also with my conservation efforts.”</span></p></blockquote></div></div><ul><li><span>“I’m so old my kindergarten had a smoking section.”</span></li><li><span>“I’m so old I can remember Preparation A.”</span></li><li><span>“I’m so old that I can run for president in a few years.”</span></li></ul><p><span>Bathed under white stage lights, Fitzgerald’s flowing white hair gave credence to his position as a veteran of standup comedy, but those jokes about his age (he’s 73) were just a warm-up to a set that ran more than an hour long, and which also included several humorous stories about being a veterinarian and a reality TV star and concluded with a reading from his new book talking about the importance of being kind to animals and people.</span></p><p><span><strong>Sharing life lessons in print</strong></span></p><p><span>Fitzgerald says he’s accumulated so many stories and bits of wisdom over the years that he wanted to share with people in a book, but he says that his active veterinary practice and many civic and social commitments made that difficult to do. That changed, however, once COVID-19 pandemic brought much of the world to a yearlong standstill.</span></p><p><span>“It seemed like the perfect time to get my thoughts down on paper,” he says, adding, “We only have so many days, so we have to make them count.</span></p><p><span>“Our lives are short, but they are beautiful. My whole life, whatever I’ve done, has been small and beautiful. The fate of the Western world doesn’t hang on the balance of what I do in the exam rooms with people and their animals, but I try to make my little side of the street better as a veterinarian and also with my conservation efforts.</span></p><p><span>“And I’m not done yet,” he adds. “I still think I’m going to write the perfect joke. I’m 73 and I’m still going to see my pet patients every workday. I can’t bounce anymore, but I still love listening to music.”</span></p><hr><p><em>Did you enjoy this article?&nbsp;</em><a href="https://cu.tfaforms.net/73" rel="nofollow"><em>Subscribe to our newsletter.</em></a><em>&nbsp;Passionate about ecology and evolutionary biology?&nbsp;</em><a href="/envs/donate" rel="nofollow"><em>Show your support.</em></a></p><p>&nbsp;</p></div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div>As he muses about conservation, 1970s Boulder and how Keith Richards prompted him to finish his college career, Kevin Fitzgerald still has his sights on crafting the perfect joke.</div> <h2> <div class="paragraph paragraph--type--ucb-related-articles-block paragraph--view-mode--default"> <div>Related Articles</div> </div> </h2> <div>Traditional</div> <div>0</div> <div> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-06/Kevin%20Fitzgerald%20header.jpg?itok=lcJVeNJV" width="1500" height="596" alt="Kevin Fitzgerald holding dachshund puppy"> </div> </div> <div>On</div> <div>White</div> Mon, 09 Jun 2025 17:15:10 +0000 Rachel Sauer 6153 at /asmagazine Alum thinks about crime the write way /asmagazine/2025/05/20/alum-thinks-about-crime-write-way <span>Alum thinks about crime the write way</span> <span><span>Rachel Sauer</span></span> <span><time datetime="2025-05-20T18:01:33-06:00" title="Tuesday, May 20, 2025 - 18:01">Tue, 05/20/2025 - 18:01</time> </span> <div> <div class="imageMediaStyle focal_image_wide"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/focal_image_wide/public/2025-05/Patrick%20Hoffman%20thumbnail.jpg?h=2fcf5847&amp;itok=dHBzwyDH" width="1200" height="800" alt="portrait of Patrick Hoffman and book cover of Friends Helping Friends"> </div> </div> <div role="contentinfo" class="container ucb-article-categories" itemprop="about"> <span class="visually-hidden">Categories:</span> <div class="ucb-article-category-icon" aria-hidden="true"> <i class="fa-solid fa-folder-open"></i> </div> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/346"> Books </a> </div> <div role="contentinfo" class="container ucb-article-tags" itemprop="keywords"> <span class="visually-hidden">Tags:</span> <div class="ucb-article-tag-icon" aria-hidden="true"> <i class="fa-solid fa-tags"></i> </div> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/54" hreflang="en">Alumni</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/58" hreflang="en">Books</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/1059" hreflang="en">Cinema Studies and Moving Image Arts</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/1241" hreflang="en">Division of Arts and Humanities</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/284" hreflang="en">Film Studies</a> </div> <span>Doug McPherson</span> <div class="ucb-article-content ucb-striped-content"> <div class="container"> <div class="paragraph paragraph--type--article-content paragraph--view-mode--default"> <div class="ucb-article-text" itemprop="articleBody"> <div><p class="lead"><em>What happens when a freshly minted film studies graduate heads out into the world with no particular plan? How A&amp;S alum Patrick Hoffman went from taxi driver to private investigator to successful author</em></p><hr><p>Back in 1998, <a href="https://www.patrickhoffmanbooks.com/" rel="nofollow">Patrick Hoffman</a> had just finished his degree in film studies at the when he decided to head back to his hometown of San Francisco with no real plan in mind for a career.</p><p>“I was very green when I came out of college,” says Hoffman. “I didn’t have much street smarts. I’d lived a pretty sheltered life.”</p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-large"><div class="ucb-callout-content"><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-05/Patrick%20Hoffman.jpg?itok=1Rx7avT5" width="1500" height="1823" alt="portrait of Patrick Hoffman"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text">Author Patrick Hoffman, a 1998 film studies graduate, located his newest novel, <em>Friends Helping Friends</em>, in Colorado.</p> </span> </div></div><p>He ended up landing a job as a taxi driver at night and working as a private investigator during the day. “Driving cabs at night in San Francisco and investigating murder cases are very quick ways to learn about the seamier side of life.”</p><p>Those lessons in the seamy side of life informed his recently released novel <em>Friends Helping Friends</em>, a thriller set in Grand Junction and Denver, Colorado, that sees its main character infiltrating a white-supremacist compound on the Western Slope.</p><p>Before writing his newest novel—or any of his previous and acclaimed ones—Hoffman realized that what he was seeing in his jobs as a private investigator and cab driver might make good grist for fiction.</p><p>Easier said than done, though. Hoffman would get started, but after a day or two, his motivation would melt away.</p><p>The best writing advice Hoffman ever got came from a friend who asked him what he wanted to do with his life. “I told him I wanted to write thrillers. He asked what was stopping me. I told him that whenever I started something I felt great at first … but then on the second or third day, the inspiration would go away, and I’d feel like a complete fraud.”</p><p>Hoffman’s friend then told him that the bad feelings were actually a&nbsp;good sign, and that the secret was to just embrace those feelings and keep going. “I literally started my first book the very next day and everything that has followed can be traced directly back to that conversation.”</p><p><strong>It all started in film classes</strong></p><p>Hoffman adds that his film classes were “where it all started.” Those days, he was thinking about very basic things like story and plot. “But those were important questions, and you really get to wrestle with them when you’re studying something like film. I had great teachers, too: Jerry Aronson, Marian Keane and, of course, the legend Stan Brakhage. I also had wonderful philosophy teachers. Gary Stahl, may he rest in peace, comes to mind. The English and Humanities Departments were wonderful, too.”</p><p>Following his friend’s advice, and armed with the basics from his classes, Hoffman turned out his first novel, <em>The White Van</em>, set in San Francisco and about a troubled young woman wanted for bank robbery and hunted by a corrupt cop who wants the money more than justice.</p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-large"><div class="ucb-callout-content"><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-05/Friends%20Helping%20Friends%20book%20cover.jpg?itok=UQ14LmkK" width="1500" height="2264" alt="book cover of Friends Helping Friends"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text"> alumnus Patrick Hoffman drew on his experience as a private investigator to write his new novel, <em>Friends Helping Friends</em>.</p> </span> </div></div><p>Hoffman is adapting that book into a&nbsp;<a href="https://deadline.com/2025/03/the-white-van-grant-singer-1236325659/" rel="nofollow">movie</a>. “Hopefully that happens,” he says.</p><p>His second novel, <em>Every Man A Menace</em>, was also set in San Francisco. <em>Clean Hands</em>, his third novel, was set in New York City, where he lives now.</p><p>And his latest novel,<em>&nbsp;</em><a href="https://groveatlantic.com/book/friends-helping-friends/" rel="nofollow"><em>Friends Helping Friends</em></a>, takes place in Denver and Grand Junction, Colorado. “For this one, it was time to come back home to Colorado,” he says. “There is a certain comfort in it. Also, Denver makes a great setting for a neo-western noir.”</p><p>He admits that before his last novel, he was kind of blocked for about eight months, having a hard time coming up with ideas. “One day I literally just started typing. I thought, ‘OK, there’s a woman in Denver, she’s a lawyer and she’s using steroids, and that was the start of the book. I went blindly from there. That’s how I do it, though. The tricky part is getting started.</p><p>“For me, writing fiction is 100% about overcoming self-doubt, being able to see something through to the end. The hard part is always starting the book. But then the middle and ends, of course, are hard, too.”</p><p>Part of <em>Friends Helping Friends</em> takes place in a white-supremacist compound. To understand that arena, Hoffman says his 20 years working as a private investigator (he still does it) and handling many murder cases helped.</p><p>“So, all of that, of course, informs the fiction. But also, I’ll just Google around and look for federal cases.” And he searches public records for indictments. “I love talking to journalists, too. My wife is a journalist, so she gives me introductions to her friends and colleagues, and I force them to answer all my questions.”</p><p>Up next for Hoffman is another book—this one set in Boulder, a place he’s now reminded of regularly when riding the subway in New York.&nbsp;</p><p>“It’s been amazing to see Coach Prime make CU trendy. I see people wearing CU Buffalo jerseys and jackets. I’m just like wow! It’s amazing. Go Buffs!”&nbsp;</p><hr><p><em>Did you enjoy this article?&nbsp;</em><a href="https://cu.tfaforms.net/73" rel="nofollow"><em>Subscribe to our newsletter.</em></a><em>&nbsp;Passionate about cinema studies and moving image arts?&nbsp;</em><a href="https://giving.cu.edu/fund/cinema-studies-fund" rel="nofollow"><em>Show your support.</em></a></p><p>&nbsp;</p></div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div>What happens when a freshly minted film studies graduate heads out into the world with no particular plan? How A&amp;S alum Patrick Hoffman went from taxi driver to private investigator to successful author.</div> <h2> <div class="paragraph paragraph--type--ucb-related-articles-block paragraph--view-mode--default"> <div>Related Articles</div> </div> </h2> <div>Traditional</div> <div>0</div> <div> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-05/Friends%20Helping%20Friends%20book%20cover%20cropped.jpg?itok=vB-K4ORC" width="1500" height="413" alt="Denver skyline from Friends Helping Friends book cover"> </div> </div> <div>On</div> <div>White</div> Wed, 21 May 2025 00:01:33 +0000 Rachel Sauer 6142 at /asmagazine Degree finally in hand, dancer leaps back onto Boulder stage /asmagazine/2025/05/01/degree-finally-hand-dancer-leaps-back-boulder-stage <span>Degree finally in hand, dancer leaps back onto Boulder stage</span> <span><span>Rachel Sauer</span></span> <span><time datetime="2025-05-01T16:11:47-06:00" title="Thursday, May 1, 2025 - 16:11">Thu, 05/01/2025 - 16:11</time> </span> <div> <div class="imageMediaStyle focal_image_wide"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/focal_image_wide/public/2025-05/Jessica%20Fudim%20as%20Medusa%20in%20Venomous_black%20background_horizontal_still%20image%20from%20video%20by%20Peter%20Ruocco.jpg?h=18eb80dd&amp;itok=ys1KMd7T" width="1200" height="800" alt="Jessica Fudim portraying Medusa in &quot;Venemous&quot;"> </div> </div> <div role="contentinfo" class="container ucb-article-categories" itemprop="about"> <span class="visually-hidden">Categories:</span> <div class="ucb-article-category-icon" aria-hidden="true"> <i class="fa-solid fa-folder-open"></i> </div> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/30"> News </a> </div> <div role="contentinfo" class="container ucb-article-tags" itemprop="keywords"> <span class="visually-hidden">Tags:</span> <div class="ucb-article-tag-icon" aria-hidden="true"> <i class="fa-solid fa-tags"></i> </div> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/54" hreflang="en">Alumni</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/1241" hreflang="en">Division of Arts and Humanities</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/1290" hreflang="en">Graduation</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/184" hreflang="en">Theatre and Dance</a> </div> <span>Tim Grassley</span> <div class="ucb-article-content ucb-striped-content"> <div class="container"> <div class="paragraph paragraph--type--article-content paragraph--view-mode--default"> <div class="ucb-article-text" itemprop="articleBody"> <div><p class="lead"><em><span> alumna Jessica Fudim was two courses away from graduating in 1997; 26 years later, she’s earned her degree</span></em></p><hr><p><span>When Jessica Fudim left the in 1997, she was two courses away from graduating. Despite being so close, she felt stuck in an unhealthy cycle of signing up for and withdrawing from her final degree requirements. Something needed to change, and she decided it needed to be her studies.</span></p><p><span>“I’ve learned as a parent, you can only do so much and sometimes you have to cut something out or make something smaller on your plate,” she says. “So, I went to the safe space of being near my parents (in California). But I felt a hurt in my heart about it.”</span></p><p><span>Fudim went on to have a vibrant career as a dance performance artist, creating and performing original work across the United States. An entrepreneur and, with her husband, a parent of two kids, she owns and operates two businesses:&nbsp;</span><a href="https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jessicafudimdance.com%2F&amp;data=05%7C02%7Ctimothy.grassley%40colorado.edu%7C73e442fab4f34506f5a908dd75626983%7C3ded8b1b070d462982e4c0b019f46057%7C1%7C0%7C638795787716107336%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=ItjTl1kx4DS7d6B3PISivbVWUsABwipKRMByYmqmg48%3D&amp;reserved=0" rel="nofollow"><span>Jessica Fudim Dance</span></a><span> and&nbsp;</span><a href="https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jessicafudimpilates.com%2F&amp;data=05%7C02%7Ctimothy.grassley%40colorado.edu%7C73e442fab4f34506f5a908dd75626983%7C3ded8b1b070d462982e4c0b019f46057%7C1%7C0%7C638795787716128958%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=dIrKWwQ1dW58i%2Be95syfNvgZrcQMvNol%2ByvEDDbfX84%3D&amp;reserved=0" rel="nofollow"><span>Jessica Fudim Pilates</span></a><span>. Despite her successes, her unfinished degree felt like a shadow—an unresolved experience that she privately grieved.</span></p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-xlarge"><div class="ucb-callout-content"><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-05/Jessica%20Fudim%20as%20Medusa%20in%20Venomous_black%20background_horizontal_still%20image%20from%20video%20by%20Peter%20Ruocco.jpg?itok=xbCy5ccd" width="1500" height="938" alt="Jessica Fudim portraying Medusa in &quot;Venemous&quot;"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text">Jessica Fudim portrays Medusa in her dance-theater solo "Venomous." (Photo: Peter Ruocco)</p> </span> </div></div><p><span>Fudim is not alone. ’s Office of Data Analytics notes that each year, an average of 23 students who needed to enroll for only one or two semesters return after five years or more to earn bachelor's degrees. Despite the relative frequency of people returning to the university to finish their graduation requirements, it still felt to Fudim like an impassable hurdle. Then, in spring 2024, after exchanging emails with friends, faculty and staff, Fudim decided it was time for her curtain call.</span></p><p><span>“My kids are 12 and 14, and I do feel like I want them to see me finish. I want them to know that I did that.”</span></p><p><span><strong>A college experience across state lines</strong></span><br><br><span>Fudim (DnceBFA’24) grew up in Sonoma County, California, where she developed a love for dance. In high school, her dance instructor, Lara Branen, invited Fudim and classmates to attend the summer-long Boulder Jazz Dance Workshop, which Branen co-founded. Many of Fudim’s classes were taught in ’s Theatre and Dance Building, including performances in the Charlotte York Irey Theatre.</span></p><p><span>Fudim fell in love with Colorado and Boulder specifically. “It was totally transformative for me,” she recalls. “It helped crystallize this knowing that I wanted to dance—that I am a dancer.”</span></p><p><span>After graduating from high school, Fudim enrolled at the University of California, Irvine, which she attended from 1991 to 1993. She didn’t feel at home in Irvine, though, and transferred into ’s Bachelor of Fine Arts (BFA) in dance program in 1994. There, she thrived and was often identified as an example student, full of talent and drive.</span></p><p><span>Unbeknownst to many of her classmates and faculty, though, Fudim’s balance of school, work and personal life began to fray from the outset of her education. While her father paid her tuition, Fudim at one point held three part-time jobs to cover her living expenses, including the now-closed Espresso Roma café.</span></p><p><span>“I wasn't living lavishly,” she admits. “I lived on beans, rice, pizza and free croissants from the café. I’m a worker bee by nature, but back then especially, I didn't do a good job applying my work nature in the right direction. I spent more time working at my jobs than doing my academic work.”</span></p><p><span>Because Fudim transferred from California, some of her classes from Irvine did not count at for credit. She found herself on a different graduation timeline than her peers in the BFA program, a social challenge that grew as more friends graduated and left town.</span></p><p><span>“I think I had another semester or two of work to do,” she says, “but I started to check out. I completed my BFA (capstone) performance, but I withdrew from some classes. I’m so embarrassed that I got Fs in a couple of classes. But I didn’t have the skills to know how to ask for help—to say, ‘I’m struggling and I’m not sure what to do next.’”</span></p><p><span>Fudim went back to California in 1997, hoping to complete her degree by finishing a few classes at a local community college. Those attempts did not work out. She also tried distance learning but withdrew. Eventually, Fudim moved on.</span></p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-xlarge"><div class="ucb-callout-content"><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-05/Medusa%20with%20her%20children%2C%20Pegasus%20%26%20Chrysaor_Jessica%20Fudim%20in%20Venomous_photo%20by%20Kyle%20Adler_0.jpg?itok=gDTj0UgT" width="1500" height="1000" alt="Jessica Fudim as Medua in &quot;Venomous&quot;"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text">Medusa (portrayed by Jessica Fudim) with her children Pegasus and Chrysaor in "Venomous." (Photo: Kyle Adler)</p> </span> </div></div><p><span>“It felt like a bad break up. It felt sad—unresolved. I haven’t been back to Boulder since then.”</span></p><p><span><strong>A phone call leading to an academic plan</strong></span></p><p><span>After returning to California, Fudim decided to invest fully in her dance career and, over the next 20 years, experienced tremendous success as a solo artist and with her ensemble company, The Dance Animals. She held several dance residencies, co-directed The Experimental Performance Institute (EPI) at New College of California and, with the late Dwayne Calizo, co-produced, choreographed for and performed in the multimedia performance series “Crash Cabaret: Where Queers Collide” at San Francisco’s Roxie Theatre.</span></p><p><span>Her </span><a href="https://www.jessicafudimdance.com/venomous.html" rel="nofollow"><span>most recent solo show, Venemous</span></a><span>, which reimagines the myth of Medusa, debuted to critical acclaim, and she considered bringing the show to Colorado and . She initially contacted Erika Randall, professor of dance and a friend, about the possibility of creating an alumnus event.</span></p><p><span>After sending her initial email, though, she felt compelled to follow up. “I sent a second email that said, ‘I want to be transparent—I never fully graduated from CU. It's something that I've wanted to do, and I do feel really motivated at this point in my life to complete that degree. But I just want you to know that I can’t come to Boulder as an alumna. I'm not. I haven't graduated.’”</span></p><p><span>At that time, Randall was the College of Arts and Sciences associate dean for student success, and part of her duties as dean included overseeing one of the academic advising units that helps students return to and complete their degrees. Randall remembers reading Fudim’s email and decided to call.</span></p><p><span>“When we talked, she said, ‘I had no idea how much not finishing my degree had held a shadow over me and how much it would mean to finish it,’” recalls Randall. “I got really excited and said, ‘You should come back. You should come to our graduation. You should do the performance you had written to me about performing.’”</span></p><p><span>“That was definitely a turning point for me,” says Fudim. “She is so warm and genuine and so non-judgmental. It was this healing gift to just have her open her arms like that. I didn't even feel at that point that I needed to be courageous. It just felt like I was so excited to do it.”</span></p><p><span>Randall connected Fudim with Dawn Fettig, an experienced academic advisor with a deep understanding of ’s historic curricula and degree requirements. As part of her work with special populations, Fettig helps students figure out what courses they need to complete degrees.</span></p><p><span>To determine how close Fudim was to graduation, Fettig reviewed her transcripts, the university’s old “Permanent Record Card” and handwritten notes included in Fudim’s file. After combing through university documentation, Fettig recreated Fudim’s academic record.</span></p> <div class="field_media_oembed_video"><iframe src="/asmagazine/media/oembed?url=https%3A//www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DQeq_QMaMNmY&amp;max_width=516&amp;max_height=350&amp;hash=rBMMTsM8uYsi5ikjaZ4t71d7wMGU_MUe4UbGi0psTEk" width="516" height="290" class="media-oembed-content" loading="eager" title="VENOMOUS Teaser- a mythical dance for a modern world"></iframe> </div> <p>&nbsp;</p><p><span>“If I use the transcript as a chronological record, I can see what made sense for a student's progression in their degree,” notes Fettig. “For example, what might make sense for this student to take to complete the requirement? And is there a substitution?”</span></p><p><span>Fettig emphasizes that the college never waives graduation requirements, and she works hard to maintain the integrity of degrees the university confers. “The degree means something to our departments, to our faculty, to our staff and to our students,” says Fettig. “We figure out a way to look at their completed work and ask if it meets the spirit of the requirements as they were set at the time.”</span></p><p><span>For Fudim, this meant completing a geography requirement as part of ’s Minimum Academic Preparation Standards (MAPS) and a final departmental stage performance. Fettig found a course in California near Fudim’s home that would count for the MAPS credit. They also explored marking her degree’s stage performance requirement as fulfilled by her career experience and then substituting the required credit with another dance course she had completed at .</span></p><p><span>“In Jessica's case, because her dance degree is a performance art, I did have to go back to the department and say, ‘This is a professional working in the field. I think she’s probably met this stage performance requirement,’” says Fettig.</span></p><div class="ucb-box ucb-box-title-left ucb-box-alignment-left ucb-box-style-fill ucb-box-theme-lightgray"><div class="ucb-box-inner"><div class="ucb-box-title">What would Medusa say if she had a chance to speak for herself?</div><div class="ucb-box-content"><p><span>Jessica Fudim’s dance-theater solo,&nbsp;</span><em>Venomous</em><span>, looks at the classic Greek myth from Medusa's perspective and moves her story beyond that of a snake-headed monster.</span></p><p><i class="fa-solid fa-circle-arrow-right ucb-icon-color-gold">&nbsp;</i><span>&nbsp;<strong>What</strong></span><em><span>: Venomous</span></em></p><p><i class="fa-solid fa-circle-arrow-right ucb-icon-color-gold">&nbsp;</i><span>&nbsp;<strong>When</strong>: 6:30 p.m. June 5 and 6</span></p><p><i class="fa-solid fa-circle-arrow-right ucb-icon-color-gold">&nbsp;</i><span>&nbsp;<strong>Where</strong>: The Pearl Ballroom, 2199 California Street in Denver</span></p><p><a class="ucb-link-button ucb-link-button-gold ucb-link-button-default ucb-link-button-regular" href="https://www.jessicafudimdance.com/projects-performances-workshops.html" rel="nofollow"><span class="ucb-link-button-contents">Learn more</span></a></p></div></div></div><p><span>“She didn't have the class, but she has the experience. She also has other classes that we can use as a substitution” for the major’s requirements.</span></p><p><span>Together, Fettig and Fudim created a plan that fueled Fudim’s motivation to complete her degree. “Having someone who is in a position of knowledge like Erika and Dawn, who say, ‘Yes, of course you can do this. We have a way for you to do this. And this is awesome.’ I just trusted them—I believed them,” says Fudim. “It shifted my outlook.”</span></p><p><span><strong>Graduation and healing</strong></span></p><p><span>While Fudim did have the motivation to tackle her coursework, she still had to juggle a full schedule. “I have two kids and I run two businesses,” notes Fudim. “I do all of my own admin work, and my bookkeeping. My husband works the opposite schedule so that we can tag-team childcare. When I needed to study, I had to plan it.”</span></p><p><span>Fudim’s mother regularly covered childcare to make room for Fudim to complete her coursework. Many days, her family created a homework club in which they could complete their assignments around the dinner table. This reframed the time needed to finish coursework as an opportunity to connect through shared experiences. While Fudim is happy she received an A in her geography class, the grade plays only a small part in how this experience affects her.</span></p><p><span>Fudim officially completed her degree and graduated in fall 2024. The experience has widened what she believes possible, and she’s thrilled for fresh opportunities to continue making art, performing and teaching dance. Notably, she will return to Colorado this summer to perform Venemous at the&nbsp;</span><a href="https://denverfringe.org/" rel="nofollow"><span>2025 Denver Fringe Festival</span></a><span> June 4-8. While staying in Colorado for the show, she plans to visit Boulder for the first time since leaving in 1997.</span></p><p><span>“My dear friend and former CU Dance BFA classmate, Kate Weglarz (Thorngren) will be flying out for the show and to go walking down memory lane with me in Boulder,” says Fudim. “I'm excited to return to my roots in Colorado, and to share where I am now as an artist.”</span></p><p><span>Finishing her degree brings a sense of resolution and a lesson in persistence. “I feel like the primary reason I completed my degree was to create healing,” says Fudim. “It wasn’t closure. It’s opened me back up.”</span></p><hr><p><em>Did you enjoy this article?&nbsp;</em><a href="https://cu.tfaforms.net/73" rel="nofollow"><em>Subscribe to our newsletter.</em></a><em>&nbsp;Passionate about theatre and dance?&nbsp;</em><a href="/theatredance/giving" rel="nofollow"><em>Show your support.</em></a></p><p>&nbsp;</p></div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div> alumna Jessica Fudim was two courses away from graduating in 1997; 26 years later, she’s earned her degree.</div> <h2> <div class="paragraph paragraph--type--ucb-related-articles-block paragraph--view-mode--default"> <div>Related Articles</div> </div> </h2> <div>Traditional</div> <div>0</div> <div> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-05/Jessica%20Fudim%20as%20Medusa%20cropped.jpg?itok=ZWyBH9yV" width="1500" height="552" alt="Jessica Fudim portraying Medusa in &quot;Venemous&quot;"> </div> </div> <div>On</div> <div>White</div> <div>Top image: Medusa (played by Jessica Fudim) welcomes the audience in "Venomous." (Photo: Kyle Adler)</div> Thu, 01 May 2025 22:11:47 +0000 Rachel Sauer 6127 at /asmagazine CU grad Erin Macdonald makes it so /asmagazine/2025/04/15/cu-grad-erin-macdonald-makes-it-so <span>CU grad Erin Macdonald makes it so</span> <span><span>Rachel Sauer</span></span> <span><time datetime="2025-04-15T16:18:50-06:00" title="Tuesday, April 15, 2025 - 16:18">Tue, 04/15/2025 - 16:18</time> </span> <div> <div class="imageMediaStyle focal_image_wide"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/focal_image_wide/public/2025-04/Erin%20Macdonald%20Enterprise.jpg?h=06ac0d8c&amp;itok=ZOkcWCIf" width="1200" height="800" alt="Erin Macdonald onstage with U.S.S. Enterprise"> </div> </div> <div role="contentinfo" class="container ucb-article-categories" itemprop="about"> <span class="visually-hidden">Categories:</span> <div class="ucb-article-category-icon" aria-hidden="true"> <i class="fa-solid fa-folder-open"></i> </div> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/30"> News </a> </div> <div role="contentinfo" class="container ucb-article-tags" itemprop="keywords"> <span class="visually-hidden">Tags:</span> <div class="ucb-article-tag-icon" aria-hidden="true"> <i class="fa-solid fa-tags"></i> </div> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/54" hreflang="en">Alumni</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/254" hreflang="en">Astrophysical and Planetary Sciences</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/1213" hreflang="en">Astrophysics</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/1242" hreflang="en">Division of Natural Sciences</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/556" hreflang="en">Mathematics</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/1284" hreflang="en">Print Magazine 2024</a> </div> <a href="/asmagazine/bradley-worrell">Bradley Worrell</a> <div class="ucb-article-content ucb-striped-content"> <div class="container"> <div class="paragraph paragraph--type--article-content paragraph--view-mode--default"> <div class="ucb-article-text" itemprop="articleBody"> <div><p class="lead"><em><span>The 2009 math and astrophysics double major has successfully transformed herself from a scientist to an educator to a storyteller sailing with the enterprise known as </span></em><span>Star Trek</span></p><hr><p><span>As she worked toward completing her bachelor’s degrees in astrophysics and mathematics at the in the late 2000s, Erin Macdonald often enjoyed watching </span><em><span>Star Trek: The Next Generation&nbsp;</span></em><span>with her college friends. Today, she is a science advisor for the entire </span><em><span>Star Trek</span></em><span> franchise.</span></p><p><span>“I don’t think I could have ever conceived it, that being able to work in television and movies was a real thing that people could actually do,” Macdonald says in retrospect. “And if you told me that I would see my name in TV credits—not to mention in the </span><em><span>Star Trek</span></em><span> font with the </span><em><span>Star Trek</span></em><span> theme playing—it’s almost unbelievable.”</span></p><p><span>It’s been a remarkable journey from academia to Hollywood, Macdonald acknowledges. Still, she is quick to add that in a multiverse of possibilities, the outcome was never assured, and it did not happen at warp speed.</span></p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-xlarge"><div class="ucb-callout-content"><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-04/Erin%20Macdonald%20with%20book.jpg?itok=MMa27qSi" width="1500" height="1125" alt="portrait of Erin Macdonald holding &quot;My First Book of Space&quot;"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text"> alumnus Erin Macdonald, who double majored in mathematics and astrophysics, is a science advisor for the Star Trek franchise and author of <em>Star Trek: My First Book of Space</em>. (Photo: Bradley Worrell)</p> </span> </div></div><p><span>Raised in Fort Collins, Colorado, Macdonald did not grow up watching </span><em><span>Star Trek</span></em><span>. However, she was deeply motivated to study science after being inspired by the protagonist astronomer Ellie Arroway in the movie </span><em><span>Contact</span></em><span>, as well as by fictional FBI agent and medical doctor Dana Scully in the popular TV show </span><em><span>The X-Files.</span></em></p><p><span>“I watched </span><em><span>The X-Files</span></em><span> growing up, and Dana Scully for me was just the coolest woman who ever existed. That really sparked an excitement to be a scientist,” she says. “And then when </span><em><span>Contact</span></em><span> came out, watching Dr. Ellie Arroway use a telescope to find aliens, and seeing her legitimately work as an astronomer was the first time I ever saw that as a career.”</span></p><p><span>Still, there were some obstacles to overcome, Macdonald says, including the fact that math did not come naturally to her.</span></p><p><span>“In high school, I had friends who were taking classes that seemed to get it. And for me, I felt like I was trudging through mud trying to understand things—but knowing that I had to get through the math,” she says. Finally, when taking a Calculus 3 course at , she says she experienced a breakthrough when she came to understand how math worked with physics, and then “everything just clicked.” It prompted her to immediately declare a double major in mathematics and astrophysics.</span></p><p><span><strong>Gaining another role model</strong></span></p><p><span>It also was in college that Macdonald was first exposed to </span><em><span>Star Trek&nbsp;</span></em><span>through a tightknit group of fellow students who were big fans of the TV shows.</span></p><p><span>“In the Venn diagram of physics majors and </span><em><span>Star Trek</span></em><span> fans, there is a big intersection,” she says with a laugh. “I was in my early 20s and (fictional) Voyager Captain Catherine Janeway became my new Scully. She was someone who had gone from being a science officer to a captain. At that point, I knew I wanted to get my PhD, but I didn’t necessarily want to be a researcher as a career. So, &nbsp;Janeway was a role model, how she was a leader and a problem-solver and a mentor. It was something I aspired to.”</span></p><p><span>After graduating from in May 2009, Macdonald enrolled at the University of Glasgow in Scotland, where she earned her PhD in astrophysics in 2012. Normally, a master’s degree would be the next educational step after obtaining an undergraduate degree, but Macdonald credits the quality of the education she received at —and particularly the research opportunity and mentorship of astrophysics and planetary sciences Professor Jeremy Darling—with allowing her to immediately advance to working toward a doctorate.</span></p><p><span>After obtaining her PhD, Macdonald spent two years doing post-doctoral research at Cardiff University in Wales, United Kingdom. She later moved back to Colorado, where she worked as an adjunct professor in the community college system and as an educator at the Denver Museum of Nature &amp; Science for about a year, then transitioned to work as an aerospace engineer for a contractor based in the Denver area.</span></p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-xlarge"><div class="ucb-callout-content"><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-04/Erin%20Macdonald%20at%20merch%20table.jpg?itok=8ZTIPI5I" width="1500" height="1135" alt="Erin Macdonald at merchandise table flashing Vulcan &quot;live long and proper&quot; hand symbol"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text"><span>“In the Venn diagram of physics majors and </span><em><span>Star Trek</span></em><span> fans, there is a big intersection,” says alumnus Erin Macdonald. (Photo: Bradley Worrell)</span></p> </span> </div></div><p><span>It was during her time working for the contractor, and while attending pop culture conventions for fun, that Macdonald hit upon the idea that she could combine her deep knowledge of astrophysics with her love of science fiction to give talks on the science of science fiction TV shows, movies and videogames at fan conventions.</span></p><p><span>“After a while in the private sector, I found I really missed teaching. I was already going to conventions, so I proposed giving talks,” she says, adding that event organizers were receptive to the idea. “For topics, a popular one is physics and </span><em><span>Star Trek</span></em><span>. I’d say, ‘I did my PhD in gravitational physics, so let me explain how (theoretically) warp drives work, because I actually know the science of how warp drives work.’”</span></p><p><span><strong>To boldly go …</strong></span></p><p><span>In 2017, Macdonald moved to the Los Angeles area, where she continued to work in the aerospace industry while also giving science/science fiction talks at fan conventions, or as she describes herself in that time: “rocket scientist by day, warp engineering expert by evening.” It was during that period that she began meeting actors and writers at fan events, which ultimately led to industry connections with executives at CBS, the producer of all things </span><em><span>Star Trek.</span></em></p><p><span>Macdonald was initially hired to give talks at CBS-sponsored events, including </span><em><span>Star Trek</span></em><span> Cruises. That led to an introduction with the co-executive producer of </span><em><span>Star Trek Discovery</span></em><span>, who asked Macdonald to serve as a science advisor for the show as season 3 began production.</span></p><p><span>“I believe I did a good job on that season, so I think the executives saw value in hiring a science advisor to be available to all of their shows to maintain consistency across the franchise, to understand all of the made-up technologies that we have in </span><em><span>Star Trek</span></em><span> and to be able to communicate that to the writers as well,” she says. “That’s been going on since 2019, so almost five years now.”</span></p><p><span>Meanwhile, Macdonald has written four screenplays, and she has done voice acting for </span><em><span>Star Trek Prodigy</span></em><span>, an animated Star Trek show, during which she had the opportunity to work with Kate Mulgrew, the actress who played Captain Janeway on </span><em><span>Star Trek Voyager.</span></em></p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-large"><div class="ucb-callout-content"><blockquote><p class="lead"><span>“When I started working on </span><em><span>Star Trek Prodigy</span></em><span>, they were bringing Captain Janeway back as a teacher for young kids. I was going to help write some of her lines, and that was when I had this huge epiphany of—I’m not meant to become Captain Janeway; I’m meant to write Captain Janeway and create characters that inspire kids to become scientists.”</span></p></blockquote></div></div><p><span>“When I started working on </span><em><span>Star Trek Prodigy</span></em><span>, they were bringing Captain Janeway back as a teacher for young kids. I was going to help write some of her lines, and that was when I had this huge epiphany of—I’m not meant to become Captain Janeway; I’m meant to write Captain Janeway and create characters that inspire kids to become scientists,” she says. “And so now, I find that storytelling lets me sort of inspire and motivate the next generation of STEM professionals, and that’s what I want to do as a career.”</span></p><p><span>Macdonald has found her voice as a storyteller in several different ways. In 2022, she published </span><em><span>Star Trek: My First Book of Space,</span></em><span> an illustrate children’s board book that uses Star Trek to talk about science, technology, engineering, arts and math (STEAM), and she wrote and narrated the Audible Original “The Science of Sci-Fi” in collaboration with The Great Courses.</span></p><p><span>Additionally, in 2021, McDonald created Spacetime Productions, a film development and production company devoted to giving representation to traditionally marginalized voices, including those in the LGBTQIA+ community. The company has produced two short films including </span><em><span>Identiteaze</span></em><span>, released on the streaming service Nebula earlier this summer.</span></p><p><span>Reflecting on her journey from scientist to educator to storyteller, Macdonald says her success is the result of recognizing good opportunities, trusting her instincts, perseverance and, most importantly, putting in the time and work to achieve her goals.</span></p><p><span>“You know, I didn’t quit my PhD and move to LA with no plan. I took those important steps in between,” she says. “And it took me until well into my 30s for me to realize what I wanted, to be a storyteller and create those Dana Scullys and Captain Janeways, as opposed to becoming one of those characters. And that’s OK. All of those steps along the way helped inform the work I do now.”</span></p><hr><p><em>Did you enjoy this article?&nbsp;</em><a href="https://cu.tfaforms.net/73" rel="nofollow"><em>Subscribe to our newsletter.</em></a><em>&nbsp;Passionate about astrophysical and planetary sciences?&nbsp;</em><a href="/aps/support-us" rel="nofollow"><em>Show your support.</em></a></p><p>&nbsp;</p></div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div>The 2009 math and astrophysics double major has successfully transformed herself from a scientist to an educator to a storyteller sailing with the enterprise known as 'Star Trek.'</div> <h2> <div class="paragraph paragraph--type--ucb-related-articles-block paragraph--view-mode--default"> <div>Related Articles</div> </div> </h2> <div>Traditional</div> <div>0</div> <div> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-04/Erin%20Macdonald%20onstage%20with%20Enterprise.jpg?itok=KlZHANe4" width="1500" height="560" alt="Erin Macdonald onstage holding microphone with picture of U.S.S. Enterprise"> </div> </div> <div>On</div> <div>White</div> Tue, 15 Apr 2025 22:18:50 +0000 Rachel Sauer 6108 at /asmagazine CU alum Stephen Koehler enjoys high-flying career /asmagazine/2025/04/09/cu-alum-stephen-koehler-enjoys-high-flying-career <span>CU alum Stephen Koehler enjoys high-flying career</span> <span><span>Rachel Sauer</span></span> <span><time datetime="2025-04-09T12:14:40-06:00" title="Wednesday, April 9, 2025 - 12:14">Wed, 04/09/2025 - 12:14</time> </span> <div> <div class="imageMediaStyle focal_image_wide"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/focal_image_wide/public/2025-04/SK%20Koehler%20in%20flight%20suit.JPG?h=2dfd287f&amp;itok=8RgLJCcy" width="1200" height="800" alt="Stephen Koehler in green flight suit saluting U.S. Navy personnel on ship deck"> </div> </div> <div role="contentinfo" class="container ucb-article-categories" itemprop="about"> <span class="visually-hidden">Categories:</span> <div class="ucb-article-category-icon" aria-hidden="true"> <i class="fa-solid fa-folder-open"></i> </div> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/30"> News </a> </div> <div role="contentinfo" class="container ucb-article-tags" itemprop="keywords"> <span class="visually-hidden">Tags:</span> <div class="ucb-article-tag-icon" aria-hidden="true"> <i class="fa-solid fa-tags"></i> </div> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/54" hreflang="en">Alumni</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/1242" hreflang="en">Division of Natural Sciences</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/428" hreflang="en">Physics</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/1281" hreflang="en">ROTC</a> </div> <a href="/asmagazine/bradley-worrell">Bradley Worrell</a> <div class="ucb-article-content ucb-striped-content"> <div class="container"> <div class="paragraph paragraph--type--article-content paragraph--view-mode--default"> <div class="ucb-article-text" itemprop="articleBody"> <div><p class="lead"><em><span>The ROTC cadet and physics major turned naval aviator turned admiral was appointed commander of the U.S. Pacific Fleet in early 2024</span></em></p><hr><p><span> grad Stephen T. Koehler (Phys’86) has a really, really big job.</span></p><p><span>How big?</span></p><p><span>It covers an area encompassing 100 million square miles—roughly half the earth’s surface—from Antarctica to the Artic Circle and from the western U.S. coast to the Indian Ocean. The job includes oversight of about 200 ships, 1,500 aircraft and 150,000 military and civilian personnel.</span></p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-large"><div class="ucb-callout-content"><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-04/SK%20Stepehn%20Koehler%20portrait%20pic.jpg?itok=B345YND4" width="1500" height="1875" alt="Portrait of U.S. Navy Admiral Stephen Kohler"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text"><span> grad and U.S. Navy Admiral Stephen Koehler (Phys’86) was selected as the commander of the U.S. Pacific Fleet in April 2024, following a succession of leadership positions in the Navy.&nbsp;</span></p> </span> </div></div><p><span>Admiral Koehler is the commander of the U.S. Pacific Fleet, a position he assumed in April 2024 after a series of successive leadership positions during his 40-year career in the Navy. He became the 36th commander since Admiral Chester Nimitz assumed command on Dec. 31, 1941, at Pearl Harbor.</span></p><p><span>Koehler’s ascension to a top leadership post in the Navy is perhaps even more notable given that his initial goal was modest: He wanted to fly jets like his dad, who was a Navy fighter pilot.</span></p><p><span>“Honestly, I didn’t know I would stay in the Navy this long,” he says. “But from a very young age, I watched my dad go to work to fly airplanes and I just thought he was so cool, and I remember thinking, ‘I want to do what he does.’ My dad loved being a fighter pilot. So, I knew I wanted to fly jets and land them on ships.”</span></p><p><span>After being commissioned in 1986 through the Naval&nbsp;</span><a href="https://www.military.com/join-armed-forces/rotc" rel="nofollow"><span>Reserve Officers’ Training Corps (ROTC)</span></a><span> program at , Koehler became a naval aviator in 1989 and went on to fly more than 3,900 hours in the F-14 Tomcat and F-18 Hornet, with 600 carrier landings.</span></p><p><span>Koehler subsequently served in leadership positions that included commanding a fighter squadron, serving as the captain of a nuclear aircraft carrier, commander of a carrier strike group, commander of the U.S. Third Fleet and director for strategy, plans and policy for the&nbsp;</span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Chiefs_of_Staff#Joint_Staff" rel="nofollow"><span>Joint Staff</span></a><span> in Washington, D.C., which was his last post.</span></p><p><span>Recently, Koehler spoke with </span><em><span>Colorado Arts and Sciences Magazine</span></em><span> about how his time at helped him prepare for his career in the Navy, what it was like to be a naval aviator and what his job entails as commander of the U.S. Pacific Fleet. His responses have been lightly edited and condensed for space.</span></p><p><em><span><strong>Question: Why did you decide to attend ? And why did you choose to get your degree in physics?</strong></span></em></p><p><span><strong>Koehler:</strong> The main reason I ended up applying to was that the summer before my senior year in high school, I was taking a Greyhound bus around the country, rock climbing with my cousin. We stopped in Boulder for a week and we stayed with this guy who was a friend-of-a-friend type thing. We climbed nearly every day.</span></p><p><span>One day it rained bad enough we couldn’t climb, so we heard there was a campus in town and we decided maybe we should walk around it. I picked up an application at the UMC (University Memorial Center), where it stayed in my backpack for the rest of the summer. Later, I filled it out and sent it in, and then I got accepted.</span></p><p><span>I saw CU had a </span><a href="/physics/" rel="nofollow"><span>physics major</span></a><span> and it had ROTC, so I said, ‘I’ll give it a go.’</span></p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-large"><div class="ucb-callout-content"><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-04/SK%20Koehler%20commissioning.jpg?itok=Wnf6JgMm" width="1500" height="2101" alt="Stephen Koehler in U.S. Navy blue dress uniform with his father, wearing the same"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text"><span>Admiral Stephen Koehler (right) with his father, who was also a naval aviator, following the younger Koehler’s commissioning in 1986 during a ceremony held at Old Main on the campus.</span></p> </span> </div></div><p><span>I knew I wanted to be as competitive as I could going into Navy flight school. And initially, I thought I might want to be a test pilot—and I knew you had to have hard-science capability for that, so that’s why I majored in physics. I was not a natural physics guy, so it was a slog for me, but I did it to keep my options open.</span></p><p><em><span><strong>Question: Do you feel like your time at helped prepare you for entering the Navy?</strong></span></em></p><p><span><strong>Koehler:</strong> Yes. Certainly, the ROTC piece provided an understanding of the Navy even beyond what I learned as a child of a Navy parent, and it taught me about leadership.</span></p><p><span>The physics background proved very beneficial, not only for flight school, but it led to me being selected to be a nuclear-trained officer. There is a technical degree that’s required to do that, and so, yes, my time at CU set me up for that.</span></p><p><em><span><strong>Question: When people think of naval aviators, they likely think of the movie&nbsp;</strong></span></em><span><strong>Top Gun</strong></span><em><span><strong>. What is it like to be a naval aviator in real life?</strong></span></em></p><p><span><strong>Koehler:&nbsp;</strong>People who watch </span><em><span>Top Gun</span></em><span> think you are all tan and spend your days playing volleyball at the beach, or they watch </span><em><span>Top Gun: Maverick</span></em><span> and think you’re all tan and you play football on the beach (laughs). And arguably, I would love to do some of that, but being a carrier-based fighter pilot is about being steeped in professionalism.</span></p><p><span>Naval aviators train and train so that they make the extremely difficult look easy and routine when it’s not. It takes skill to land a plane on a pitching (ship) deck, day or night, and it takes dedication to be a fighter pilot, to make sure that you are better than the adversary. It’s about having a warrior mindset and making sure you are good at it, because you’ve got to be better than your opponent.</span></p><p><em><span><strong>Question: What is your call sign and how did you get it?</strong></span></em></p><p><span><strong>Koehler:&nbsp;</strong>It’s Web. I won’t go into the whole boring story, but it’s short for Webster’s Dictionary. I received it during a very public display for a lack of spelling prowess (laughs). And I’m actually not a bad speller, but I was on that day.</span></p><p><span>I wish it (the call sign) was for something cool, like ‘spiderweb,’ or ‘he’s on the web.’ That’s probably half the reason it stuck—because it sounds cool even though it’s not (laughs). …</span></p><p><span>Now, even at this level, people call me by that name instead of my (given) name. I was sitting in the situation room in the White House in my last job and people would call me Web—not Steve or Admiral Koehler. They would be like, ‘Hey, Web, what do you think about this?’ So, that’s just what ends up happening.</span></p><p><em><span><strong>Question: How does one go from being a naval aviator to a command where you are responsible for hundreds of ships and planes and tens of thousands of sailors?</strong></span></em></p><p><span><strong>Koehler:</strong> So, it’s a process. The first step of it is staying in the Navy and being promoted to the command of a squadron, which is 12 planes and about 250 people. You’re evaluated and then there’s normally two paths after that. You either go the nuclear power route, which means you learn to drive aircraft carriers, or you stay in the air wing and you’re in command of an air wing on a carrier.</span></p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-xlarge"><div class="ucb-callout-content"><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-04/SK%20US%20Pacific%20Fleet.jpg?itok=iqxli8nK" width="1500" height="996" alt="the ships and aircraft of the U.S. Pacific Fleet on the ocean"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text">The U.S. Pacific Fleet (a portion of which is pictured here) <span>encompasses 100 million square miles from Antarctica to the Arctic circle and from the west coast of the United States into the Indian Ocean. The U.S. Pacific Fleet consists of approximately 200 ships, 1,500 aircraft and 150,000 military and civilian personnel. (Photo: U.S. Navy)</span></p> </span> </div></div><p><span>I was chosen to go the nuclear power route, so my physics degree proved useful. I went to nuclear power school and then I was the No. 2 guy on an aircraft carrier, the USS Carl Vinson. I went on to command the USS Bataan, which is an amphibious assault ship, and then I was selected to be the captain of a nuclear aircraft carrier for two and a half years, which was the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower.</span></p><p><span>Pending your performance and time in service, you may be selected to the rank of&nbsp;</span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rear_admiral_(United_States)#Rear_admiral" rel="nofollow"><span>rear admiral</span></a><span> (or flag rank). If you are not selected, there’s mandatory retirement at 30 years.</span></p><p><span>I was selected after my command of the aircraft carrier and have progressed through operational and staff command that yielded additional flag rank promotions. There was a decision by Naval leadership at some point to promote me to full admiral and select me to be the Pacific Fleet commander. So, it was a natural progression, and I’m very honored to be here.</span></p><p><em><span><strong>Question: Can you share the scope of your duties as Pacific Fleet commander and the role the position plays in the world today?</strong></span></em></p><p><span><strong>Koehler:&nbsp;</strong>The scope and scale of the Pacific Fleet, of the area I’m responsible for as far as naval interests, is from the coast of California to the west coast of India, and Antarctica to the Arctic. It’s a huge area. …</span></p><p><span>The Pacific Fleet command is of vital importance to national security, resulting from the economic ties and the commerce that travels on the ocean, for which I am responsible on the Navy side to be ready to respond. There’s just a real importance to the job and there’s a lot of work to do out there. We must continue to improve our position and capability to maintain and ensure the freedom of the seas. The intent is a ‘free and open Indo-Pacific,’ with freedom of commerce, sovereign rights and the ability to sail and operate in accordance with international law, and those things the Pacific Fleet works continuously to provide.</span></p><p><em><span><strong>Question: What is the best thing about being Pacific Fleet commander? And what is the most difficult thing?</strong></span></em></p><p><span><strong>Koehler:</strong> The best thing is having the opportunity to lead all of these sailors. With sailors and civilians, there is on the order of 150,000 of them working toward a common goal, which is to achieve our national objectives. The opportunity to go out and see them and lead them is the best. That also delves into the challenge, which is that it’s a large scale and scope of operations that I oversee. The challenge is to be able to get out and see them as much as I would like and revel in the success they have. They are a pretty amazing group of people who do some outstanding work.</span></p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-xlarge"><div class="ucb-callout-content"><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-04/SK%20Koehler%20Pearl%20Harbor%20ceremony%202024.JPG?itok=LOHmrBLT" width="1500" height="1071" alt="Admiral Stephen Koehler in U.S. Navy dress whites saluting"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text">Admiral Stephen Koehler salutes during a 2024 ceremony at Pearl Harbor. (Photo: U.S. Navy)</p> </span> </div></div><p><em><span><strong>Question: Do you still get to fly jets?</strong></span></em></p><p><span><strong>Koehler:&nbsp;</strong>I wish I did. I did get to fly as an admiral when I was the carrier strike group commander and we were on deployment in 2017. I got my last carrier landing in April of 2018.</span></p><p><span>Flying is a young person’s game. Not that I wouldn’t continue to go flying … but there’s no time to maintain my currency and while it would be fun for me, I’m not sure it would be the best use of my time now.</span></p><p><em><span><strong>Question: With your four decades of service in the Navy, are there a few standout moments in your career?</strong></span></em></p><p><span><strong>Koehler:&nbsp;</strong>That’s a really hard one. First of all, it’s been 40 years, but it doesn’t seem like it. I got to Colorado (as a freshman) in 1982, and it feels like I was just there. …</span></p><p><span>There are all sorts of things I remember. Taking command of an aircraft carrier, with 3,000 people assigned to it, and with the air wing it’s 5,000 people. That was the first huge command for me, and you have all of these sailors that you get the privilege to lead.</span></p><p><span>Certainly, the news that I was going to be Pacific Fleet commander was memorable. That was something I would never expect. It’s the honor of a lifetime to do that, and to follow in the footsteps of some amazing people, starting with Admiral Nimitz in World War II.</span></p><p><span>Another standout thing was being the demonstration pilot for the F-14 at air shows and having the opportunity to fly in front of my family at the Miramar Air Show in 1996. It was an amazing day to fly for my dad that day.</span></p><p><span>Looking back, there are many memories, and it’s been nothing but a really fun, challenging, rewarding experience. I have been able to enjoy it with my wife, Gina, who’s been with me since college, where we met in 1983 in Boulder in the Baker Hall dorm. She’s been with me the whole time, which has just been amazing.</span></p><p><em><span><strong>Question: Anything else you would like to add?</strong></span></em></p><p><span><strong>Koehler:</strong> Go Buffs!&nbsp;</span></p><hr><p><em>Did you enjoy this article?&nbsp;</em><a href="https://cu.tfaforms.net/73" rel="nofollow"><em>Subscribe to our newsletter.</em></a><em>&nbsp;Passionate about physics?&nbsp;</em><a href="/physics/giving" rel="nofollow"><em>Show your support.</em></a></p><p>&nbsp;</p></div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div>The ROTC cadet and physics major turned naval aviator turned admiral was appointed commander of the U.S. Pacific Fleet in early 2024.</div> <h2> <div class="paragraph paragraph--type--ucb-related-articles-block paragraph--view-mode--default"> <div>Related Articles</div> </div> </h2> <div>Traditional</div> <div>0</div> <div> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-04/SK%20Stephen%20Koeler%20in%20flight%20suit%20on%20deck.JPG?itok=RqcWr6_4" width="1500" height="509" alt="Stephen Koehler in green flight suit and white helmet being saluted by Navy personnel on ship deck"> </div> </div> <div>On</div> <div>White</div> <div>Top image: Admiral Stephen Koehler (green flight suit) was designated a naval aviator in 1989 and flew more than 3,900 hours in the F-14 Tomcat and F-18 Hornet, with 600 carrier landings.</div> Wed, 09 Apr 2025 18:14:40 +0000 Rachel Sauer 6101 at /asmagazine Dropping perfectionism and embracing purpose and joy /asmagazine/2025/04/07/dropping-perfectionism-and-embracing-purpose-and-joy <span>Dropping perfectionism and embracing purpose and joy</span> <span><span>Rachel Sauer</span></span> <span><time datetime="2025-04-07T09:22:31-06:00" title="Monday, April 7, 2025 - 09:22">Mon, 04/07/2025 - 09:22</time> </span> <div> <div class="imageMediaStyle focal_image_wide"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/focal_image_wide/public/2025-04/Everyone%20But%20Myself%20thumbnail.jpg?h=669ad1bb&amp;itok=t6BgU0i4" width="1200" height="800" alt="portrait of Julie Chavez and book cover of Everyone But Myself"> </div> </div> <div role="contentinfo" class="container ucb-article-categories" itemprop="about"> <span class="visually-hidden">Categories:</span> <div class="ucb-article-category-icon" aria-hidden="true"> <i class="fa-solid fa-folder-open"></i> </div> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/346"> Books </a> </div> <div role="contentinfo" class="container ucb-article-tags" itemprop="keywords"> <span class="visually-hidden">Tags:</span> <div class="ucb-article-tag-icon" aria-hidden="true"> <i class="fa-solid fa-tags"></i> </div> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/54" hreflang="en">Alumni</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/58" hreflang="en">Books</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/1241" hreflang="en">Division of Arts and Humanities</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/1284" hreflang="en">Print Magazine 2024</a> <a href="/asmagazine/taxonomy/term/224" hreflang="en">Spanish and Portuguese</a> </div> <span>Pam Moore</span> <div class="ucb-article-content ucb-striped-content"> <div class="container"> <div class="paragraph paragraph--type--article-content paragraph--view-mode--default"> <div class="ucb-article-text" itemprop="articleBody"> <div><p><em><span lang="EN"> alumna Julie Chavez reflects on her new memoir, which chronicles her journey through a mental health crisis to finding a new motto: ‘Be adequate’</span></em></p><hr><p><span lang="EN">When Julie Chavez (Span’00) graduated from the with a major in Spanish language and literature, she didn’t see herself becoming an author. As a self-proclaimed “lifelong reader” who blogged for fun, she’d been told many times that she should write a book.</span></p><p><span lang="EN">Although flattered, Chavez, who lives in Pleasanton, California, with her husband Mando Chavez, a 1999 graduate, and their two sons, was comfortable in her role as a librarian at her sons’ school. And besides, she says, “I didn’t know what I wanted my story to be.”</span></p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-large"><div class="ucb-callout-content"> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-04/Julie%20Chavez.jpeg?itok=8VV-6Sra" width="1500" height="2033" alt="Portrait of Julie Chavez"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text"> alumna <span lang="EN">Julie Chavez (Span’00) describes learning to advocate for herself and let go of her perfectionist tendencies, embracing the motto “be adequate,” in her memoir </span><em><span lang="EN">Everyone But Myself</span></em><span lang="EN">.</span></p> </span> </div></div><p><span lang="EN">That is, until her story found her.</span></p><p><span lang="EN">When anxiety and perfectionism culminated in a debilitating panic attack and a paralyzing sense that she was always falling short no matter how hard she tried, Chavez’s world irrevocably changed.</span></p><p><span lang="EN">After navigating many obstacles to accessing mental health services, working with a therapist to put her own proverbial oxygen mask on before tending to her family and finally learning to advocate for herself and let go of her perfectionist tendencies, she emerged with a new motto— “be adequate”—and the idea for the book she needed to write.&nbsp;</span></p><p><span lang="EN">Told with humor and honesty, Chavez’s new memoir, </span><em><span lang="EN">Everyone But Myself</span></em><span lang="EN">, released last year and named a </span><em><span lang="EN">Washington Post</span></em><span lang="EN"> noteworthy book and a </span><em><span lang="EN">USA Today</span></em><span lang="EN"> bestseller, chronicles her journey from the depths of a crushing mental health crisis to a life filled with joy and purpose. Chavez spoke with </span><em><span lang="EN">Colorado Arts and Sciences Magazine</span></em><span lang="EN"> to explain the story behind the story.</span></p><p><span lang="EN"><strong>Question: </strong>What motivated you to write </span><em><span lang="EN">Everyone But Myself</span></em><span lang="EN">?&nbsp;</span></p><p><span lang="EN"><strong>Chavez:&nbsp;</strong>I knew that if I was going to write a book, it would have to have value for readers. Even though I loved writing, I didn’t see myself as a fiction writer and I didn’t think I had a story to tell.</span></p><p><span lang="EN">But then I had my annual review with my principal. Over the prior year, my mental health had taken a nosedive, and I thanked her for having shared her own struggles with me during that time. Her candor really helped me through what I call my ‘mid-mom crisis’—which I later learned is something that many over-extended working moms struggle with as our elementary grade kids grow into humans who don’t need us intensely as they once did.</span></p><p><span lang="EN">She said, ‘That’s what you should write your book about.’ That was when I realized that my story could truly be helpful for someone else.</span></p><p><span lang="EN"><strong>Question: </strong>Who is</span><em><span lang="EN"> Everyone But Myself</span></em><span lang="EN"> for?</span></p><p><span lang="EN"><strong>Chavez: </strong>I wish it hadn’t taken debilitating anxiety for me to finally understand that my self-care and creating boundaries around my own happiness was not only good, but necessary.</span></p><p><span lang="EN">So, I wrote this for all the readers who see themselves in my story. It’s for the perfectionist moms, the anxious moms, the moms who, in trying to do their best for their families, have inadvertently abandoned themselves.</span></p><div class="feature-layout-callout feature-layout-callout-large"><div class="ucb-callout-content"> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-04/Everyone%20But%20Myself.jpg?itok=_g7991g0" width="1500" height="2248" alt="book cover of Everyone But Myself"> </div> <span class="media-image-caption"> <p class="small-text">In her memoir <em>Everyone But Myself</em>, alumna Julie Chavez <span lang="EN">chronicles her journey from the depths of a crushing mental health crisis to a life filled with joy and purpose.&nbsp;</span></p> </span> </div></div><p><span lang="EN">It’s also for all the moms who feel they don’t ‘deserve’ help. I love my life and my family so much. I feel grateful that I get to live a relatively comfortable life. And yet, even with all the privilege I’ve been afforded, I was taken aback at how aggressively and how quickly my mental health declined—and how hard it was to find a therapist when I needed one.</span></p><p><span lang="EN">We tend to put our suffering on a ‘sliding scale’ or to minimize it by comparing it to other people’s problems but the truth is, when it’s hard, it’s hard, and it’s OK to ask for help.</span></p><p><span lang="EN"><strong>Question: </strong>What challenges did you encounter on the road to publication?&nbsp;</span></p><p><span lang="EN"><strong>Chavez:&nbsp;</strong>The book you have in your hands is my fourth rewrite. I can’t tell you how many times I asked myself whether it was worth it.</span></p><p><span lang="EN">I started writing in the spring of 2019 and by the end of the year I had 30,000 words, which I thought was a book. It wasn’t. Then, I attended a class on publishing, where I learned that without a platform, it would be extremely difficult to find a publisher, particularly for a memoir.</span></p><p><span lang="EN">So, I started working with a hybrid publisher, who recommended a rewrite. Meanwhile, [publisher] Zibby Owens’ Book Club published an essay of mine, which was an excerpt from the book, which did really well. Zibby ended up taking me on as one of her first acquisitions, and I parted ways with the hybrid publisher.&nbsp;</span></p><p><span lang="EN">Following advice from Zibby’s team, I started a fresh rewrite. Instead of a memoir, it was an essay collection, but it just didn’t work. So now, I had an agent and I was starting with a blank page, which is actually kind of backward. Usually you get an agent once you have a fully written manuscript. I finished that version in December of 2022 and the book was published just over two years later.</span></p><p><span lang="EN">Through it all, I had to re-learn the same lesson I learned in the pages of my book—that I had to keep showing up, remember my “why,” and not be too attached to the outcome.</span></p><p><span lang="EN"><strong>Question: </strong>What has surprised you over the course of your publishing journey?</span></p><p><span lang="EN"><strong>Chavez: </strong>There’s been a surprising number of women who have said, ‘You are telling my exact story.’ So many have said that after reading my story, they understand what they’re going through, which has been wonderful.</span></p><p><span lang="EN">That was always my hope—that my book could be a friend to them and to open the door to the kinds of conversations we need to have.</span></p><p><span lang="EN">But my favorite thing is when someone says they’re giving it to a friend or asks me to sign it for their sister.</span></p><p><em><span lang="EN">This interview has been edited for length and clarity.</span></em></p><hr><p><em>Did you enjoy this article?&nbsp;</em><a href="https://cu.tfaforms.net/73" rel="nofollow"><em>Subscribe to our newsletter.</em></a><em>&nbsp;Passionate about Spanish and Portuguese?&nbsp;</em><a href="/spanishportuguese/giving-support-spanish-portuguese" rel="nofollow"><em>Show your support.</em></a></p><p>&nbsp;</p></div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div> alumna Julie Chavez reflects on her new memoir, which chronicles her journey through a mental health crisis to finding a new motto: ‘Be adequate.’</div> <h2> <div class="paragraph paragraph--type--ucb-related-articles-block paragraph--view-mode--default"> <div>Related Articles</div> </div> </h2> <div>Traditional</div> <div>0</div> <div> <div class="imageMediaStyle large_image_style"> <img loading="lazy" src="/asmagazine/sites/default/files/styles/large_image_style/public/2025-04/Everyone%20But%20Myself%20cropped.jpg?itok=heg_O08v" width="1500" height="556" alt="Illustration of exhausted woman lying prostrate on chair and ottoman"> </div> </div> <div>On</div> <div>White</div> Mon, 07 Apr 2025 15:22:31 +0000 Rachel Sauer 6098 at /asmagazine